can a werewolf get bullied

werewolfspirit_3 · Post by **werewolfspirit_3** » Fri Jul 14, 2006 7:22 pm

Aki · Post by **Aki** » Fri Jul 14, 2006 7:40 pm

Its' quite possible. And the bully might get away with it if the setting is one in which werewolves need to keep themselves secret...but if they don't need to be kept secret and they're openly known, its unlikely anyone would bully a werewolf.

Its' kinda like putting on a vest made of t-bone steaks and leaping into the lion's cage at the zoo. You're simply asking to be mauled.

Kzinistzerg · Post by **Kzinistzerg** » Fri Jul 14, 2006 8:39 pm

"You call that mauling a christian? My grandmother could maul a christian better than that!"-

Just popped into mind. WWS edit your posts and please don't do this run-on again. Fig, can you clean this up?

Yes, they can be bullied like any otehr person- it's just not very wise.. imagine bullying that little kid in the corner who happends to be a blackbelt at karate.

Kirk Hammett · Post by **Kirk Hammett** » Sat Jul 15, 2006 6:25 am

Yeah if a werewolf is naturally submissive they could easily let themselves be bullied.

JoshuaMadoc · Post by **JoshuaMadoc** » Sat Jul 15, 2006 10:14 am

"DEVIL CHILD!! DEVIL CHILD!! DEVIL CHILD!!"

Need i say more?

Apokryltaros · Post by **Apokryltaros** » Sat Jul 15, 2006 11:17 am

kitetsu wrote:"DEVIL CHILD!! DEVIL CHILD!! DEVIL CHILD!!"

Need i say more?

Yes: Exactly how does being 8 feet tall and made out of kryptonite (to paraphrase White Wolf) grant an immunity to name-calling, and slander?
If anything, it just means that the name-callers and slanderers have to take a bigger step back when they do it.

Terastas · Post by **Terastas** » Sat Jul 15, 2006 12:00 pm

They could be bullied by another werewolf, or as Aki said, if they were required to keep their lycanthropy a secret. In fact, now that I think about it, allowing one's self to become the victim of bullying could be a nice coverup. If I was a pack leader, I'd encourage all the young-uns to join the chess club and learn how to play Yu-Gi-Oh.

Apokryltaros · Post by **Apokryltaros** » Sat Jul 15, 2006 12:46 pm

Terastas wrote:...If I was a pack leader, I'd encourage all the young-uns to join the chess club and learn how to play Yu-Gi-Oh.

But then what do you do when the packmembers are trapped in the Shadow Realm?

Baphnedia · Post by **Baphnedia** » Sat Jul 15, 2006 2:23 pm

Well... I think that's where I'm supposed to step in.

Scott Gardener · Post by **Scott Gardener** » Sat Jul 15, 2006 10:37 pm

Bullying is entirely possible. Obviously, in certain circumstances, it's fraught with risk. But, there's two particular circumstances where I could see it being a big problem.

1. Within a werewolf community; wolf packs typically have an omega member who gets scapegoated a lot. Sometimes wolves even kill off their omega member.

2. In a world in which werewolves are known or have revealed themselves, but are a relative minority. Bullies would have to act in groups that significantly outnumber the werewolves, or political forces would coerce or forbid the werewolves from using their unique abilities in fighting back.

This ignores, of course, other cases of bullying, such as bullies picking on someone, unaware that that person is a werewolf and for reasons unrelated to lycanthropy.

Terastas · Post by **Terastas** » Sat Jul 15, 2006 11:50 pm

Apokryltaros wrote:
Terastas wrote:...If I was a pack leader, I'd encourage all the young-uns to join the chess club and learn how to play Yu-Gi-Oh.
But then what do you do when the packmembers are trapped in the Shadow Realm?

Anybody that plays the game at that level doesn't need me holding their hand anymore.

Apokryltaros · Post by **Apokryltaros** » Sun Jul 16, 2006 12:19 am

Terastas wrote:
Apokryltaros wrote:
Terastas wrote:...If I was a pack leader, I'd encourage all the young-uns to join the chess club and learn how to play Yu-Gi-Oh.
But then what do you do when the packmembers are trapped in the Shadow Realm?
Anybody that plays the game at that level doesn't need me holding their hand anymore.

Apparently, you haven't seen some of the latest episodes...

vrikasatma · Post by **vrikasatma** » Sun Jul 16, 2006 12:33 am

I have a werewolf getting bullied as a major plot element in the book I'm writing. She gets it pretty bad, even after she runs away from home. So in that scenario she grows up to be a werewolf and the ringleader of the bully clique from her school goes on to become a big-shot government type who takes it to a pretty high socio-political level.

And yes, the scat really hits the air conditioning device when a group of Himalayan werewolves take the Dalai Lama's advice (entering the Age of Communication, a time for knowledge to be shared openly) to heart, act on it, and blow the cover off the whole worldwide shebang.

JoshuaMadoc · Post by **JoshuaMadoc** » Sun Jul 16, 2006 7:51 am

Apokryltaros wrote:
kitetsu wrote:"DEVIL CHILD!! DEVIL CHILD!! DEVIL CHILD!!"

Need i say more?
Yes: Exactly how does being 8 feet tall and made out of kryptonite (to paraphrase White Wolf) grant an immunity to name-calling, and slander?
If anything, it just means that the name-callers and slanderers have to take a bigger step back when they do it.

Ah, but i didn't have time to rephrase my words. Being called a devil child is what would happen if, by any means, a werewolf gets sent to a catholic school (worst case scenario). It could also happen to a werewolf community, but only for a set of circumstances.

Fenrir · Post by **Fenrir** » Sun Jul 16, 2006 8:07 am

Everything can be bullied by something else, because "There's always a bigger fish" This included werewolves.

Renorei · Post by **Renorei** » Sun Jul 16, 2006 12:46 pm

Fenrir wrote:Everything can be bullied by something else, because "There's always a bigger fish" This included werewolves.

Eh...who exactly? There's not a human out there that could be considered a 'bigger fish' to a werewolf...unless said werewolf is handicapped and said human is some sort of highly trained, uber-warrior.

Though I suppose if this is a world where, let's say, DRAGONS lived (or other mythological creatures), then yeah I guess so.

As far as whether or not they can be bullied, the answer is yes. By other werewolves.

As far as whether they can be bullied by humans, that depends. Personally, I've always believed that becoming a werewolf or being born one means that your human form becomes better than it was or would have been otherwise...faster, stronger, and with better reflexes, etc....if THIS is the case, then the werewolf's enhanced human form could probably fend off any bully without revealing his/her lycanthropy. Of course, there are reasons why a werewolf might CHOOSE to allow themselves to be bullied, even if they could fend off a bully without revealing their secret. Said werewolf could easily be a gentle, turn-the-other-cheek kind of person, who would willingly allow themselves to be bullied because they don't want to hurt anybody.

Ultimately, the answer to this question, like almost all the other questions asked on this message board, depends on what kind of werewolves the person who is answering the question favors. I've answered the question using MY werewolves...someone else's werewolves may be very different.

vrikasatma · Post by **vrikasatma** » Sun Jul 16, 2006 3:37 pm

Bullies need not necessarily be bigger. Sometimes, especially, the bully is a smaller, weaker person who does it in the mistaken belief that it will make them bigger (Napoleonic Complex). Our class bully stood 5 feet even and weighed 112 pounds soaking wet.

And bullying need not necessarily be head-to-head physical, at least at first. Physical strength isn't always a requisite but cunning almost always is. Having mockery, scorn, disrespect, insults, catcalls, put-downs and stonewalling thrown at you daily is very definitely bullying, and often the most common form. It's even worse when it's a coordinated and directed or at least cooperating cadre that does it as a deliberate campaign.

Third point: having the above-described abuse thrown at you on a daily basis is brainwashing and it doesn't take long to start buying into the hype ("Everyone keeps telling me I'm a stupid lard-assed freak that can't do anything right, so I must be"). When one starts believing that, then one doesn't have much will to stand up for oneself and at that point you have what's called a lamb before the slaughter. You could be a physiological Godzilla and still get your liver and lights handed to you if your self-esteem is in the gutter.

Fenrir · Post by **Fenrir** » Sun Jul 16, 2006 4:43 pm

werewolves get bullied..... by vampires all the time.

Renorei · Post by **Renorei** » Sun Jul 16, 2006 4:48 pm

Fenrir wrote:werewolves get bullied..... by vampires all the time.

Yeah, all thanks to Hollywood.

Shadow Wulf · Post by **Shadow Wulf** » Sun Jul 16, 2006 5:36 pm

Fenrir wrote:werewolves get bullied..... by vampires all the time.

No not all the time. mabey half, cause most of the time the werewolf works in colaboration with vampires in movies.

RedEye · Post by **RedEye** » Wed Jul 19, 2006 12:29 am

Getting Bullied is at least half mental...the victim buys into the Bully's concept that He/She can bully someone else.
Bullys are mostly cowards, trying to disprove their cowardice.

On the other hand...there is a lot of "Bullying" that goes on in a Wolf pack, and it's directly related to in-pack status.

SO...flip a coin.

bar1scorpio · Post by **bar1scorpio** » Sat Feb 02, 2008 2:09 am

Part of this could be answered if the hypothetical werewolf in question lives a solitary existence, or is part of a pack.

In the former, there's always a pack Omega.

In the latter, you might have a werewolf without much force of will, or unwilling to use their natural abilities to defend themselves, lest they risk exposure.

IndianaJones · Post by **IndianaJones** » Sat Feb 02, 2008 4:49 am

Friends fear you.

People pick on you.

Your weird personality won't give you friends.

Being a werewolf is not easy.

You have a hard time controlling yourself if you can't take it anymore.

Not until, something in you broke. You let the beast out of your soul and body.

You experience your first change.

You hunt them for revenge.

You cannot control yourself.

Once, it is over. You woke up with blood everywhere, in your face, teeth, mouth, and hands.

Avareis · Post by **Avareis** » Sat Feb 02, 2008 8:04 am

Hairless Willis! Hairless Willis! HAHA! HAHA!

LunarCarnivore · Post by **LunarCarnivore** » Sat Feb 02, 2008 7:57 pm

what about werewolves being bullied by other species of 'thropes, you got Ursanthropes(werebears), Leo-anthropes (werelions) etc.... alot of animals bigger and scarier then wolves.