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Its pretty obvious that Pack members don't appreciate those who claim to be Werewolves.Everyone deserves the chance to be apart of this community regardless of whether in their first post they claim to be a werewolf,but when they reinforce that claim, how long should it be allowed to continue.Should they be permanently banned after so many posts, or should they just be banned for a certain amount of time.If there is already a topic concerning this ,sorry, I didn't see it.Could there possibly be some kind of disclaimer when joining the board, stating that we do not support such claims,and if they are made you will be banned.I know guidelines are set but it seems many don't bother to read them.What do you think should be done, if anything.

I think it should depend less on the fact that they are claiming such and rather how they choose to go about it.

If they post thread after thread trying to reinforce the claim without addressing the criticism:
SPAMMER = BANNED!!!

If they cry that nobody believes them or tell everyone that expresses disbelief to go f*** themselves:
FLAMER = BANNED!!!

If they say "What the hell I thought this was a werewolf forum" or something along the lines of that:
Correct them. And if they persist -- TROLLER = BANNED!!!

Most of the P-shifters and other such fake werewolves that ever posted at the Pack either got banned or left in a huff eventually, but not all of them came and went like that. It does need to be understood that the Pack is a forum for werewolf fans instead of werewolf wannabes (regardless of how often the two may overlap), but everyone deserves the benefit of a doubt.

I think the rule of thumb should be that, if someone comes to the Pack claiming to be a real life werewolf, they should have to do one of two things:
1) Fess up.
2) Answer our questions and humor our skepticism.

If they can actually convince me that they just might know something about werewolves, I just might look the other way. . . But most of these fake werewolves just rip their "truths" right out of Anne Rice or Stephanie Meyer, so I seriously doubt that will ever happen.

But yeah, at any rate, while claiming to be a real life werewolf is an absolute irritation, I wouldn't explicitly write it in the rule book. Just make it clear that they will be ridiculed for it, warn them to proceed with caution, and decide whether to ban them or not based on how they respond to said criticism instead.

Generally the result of a new member claiming to be a "Real Werewolf" goes along these lines:

Other Pack members do not tolerate the blatant lie, and more or less politely informs the 'werewolf' that their claims are unacceptable, looked down upon, and that role playing should be kept within the role playing forums. Some Pack Members may go so far as to notify the poser, via PM, what their feelings are regarding the 'tru w3r3wulf' claims.

Either the 'werewolf' immediately recognizes that this is, really, not a 'werewolf forum' in the sense that they thought it was, or that they're not garnering the level of attention they wanted, and leave. The RPer stops after realizing no one else wants to play his game. And for the "Tr0 Wulfs" who won't live down their claims -- they typically depart after the rest of the Pack Members have their way with him, and said poster realizes they're not getting very far anytime soon (this is when the P-shifters "leave in a huff.")

And quite honestly. That works -- without the ban hammer. (although, extensive discussion HAS occurred regarding the possibility of placing "No Real Werewolf Claims" into the rules. And the rules haven't been changed yet...still...)

As for trolls: They're easy to pick out and eliminate. And, by the way, I personally don't think any of our most recent pathological liars and "gypsy wolves" are trolls.

^ Agree with the post above. We already have a system within the system and us mods don't have to lift a thumb which means less work for us. Thanks guys.
I am surprise I didn't took what Outward said into account, most of the time these type of people leave soon after they get looked down on or harassed which leaves little reason to ban any of these people, if they want to persist on staying here and saying they are a "w3r3wulf" without any evidence, then they will have to endure what others have to say on the matter even if it does come off as being rude, and even locked threads if needed. Some have stopped posting such accusations yet still believe they are but as long as they keep it to themselves or the role playing section then it's fine. Like Outward said, it does work, we seen it many times in the past.

Just laugh at them and ignore them.

I also agree with Terastas. In addition I would also like to see a rule against spammers (if that rule doesn't exist already), and also make a rule against plagarism (both of which are things that Wolf Gal responsible for). I know that its a bit strict to ban someone immediately for disobeying a rule, but Wolf Gal in my opinion has had enough chances.

*Three werewolves are crowded around a computer somewhere*
"Huh. Here's another one who doesn't believe we're real."
"Hey, just tell him to go f*** himself."
"Yeah, then post thread after thread repeating yourself, without addressing their criticisms until they ban us again."
"Good idea. Hey, y'know what? This time I'll just liberally seed all of my posts with some garbage I found in a Stephanie Meyer book."
"Yeah. That'll really piss them off."

Uniform Two Six wrote:*Three werewolves are crowded around a computer somewhere*
"Huh. Here's another one who doesn't believe we're real."
"Hey, just tell him to go f*** himself."
"Yeah, then post thread after thread repeating yourself, without addressing their criticisms until they ban us again."
"Good idea. Hey, y'know what? This time I'll just liberally seed all of my posts with some garbage I found in a Stephanie Meyer book."
"Yeah. That'll really piss them off."

*nods* It had occurred to me that a real life werewolf might derive some comfort or humor out of being told by select representatives of the masses that he doesn't exist.

That doesn't mean I'm about to start giving every werewolf wannabe that comes here the benefit of a doubt all of a sudden. I'll probably just stick it somewhere in a script instead.

No he wouldn't Because werewolves DON'T exist. THEY DON'T....EXIST!

good sweet god

I've never really noticed many trolls here, one of the benefits to being one of the less known forums.

MattSullivan wrote:No he wouldn't Because werewolves DON'T exist. THEY DON'T....EXIST!

Ya, but the whole reason we're werewolf fans is because we, for whatever brief amount of time, can suspend our disbelief and live vicariously through a creature that isn't human. And to outright claim that werewolves don't exist ruins a bit of the fun

But ya, I see your point Matt. I suppose if we go to far into the "werewolves exist" part, we'll all end up insane in an assylum somewhere. lol.

Werewolves do not exist......yet.

In 2012 we will have a werewolf-apocalypse. The mayans predicted that you know.

Nice theory! i always thought that the mayans were just too lazy to finish it. lol

And those people who claim to be werewolves can be Therians in general. But, they don't call themselves werewolves.

Morkulv wrote:In 2012 we will have a werewolf-apocalypse. The mayans predicted that you know.

Sounds cooler than my zombie-apocalypse theories lol.

IndianaJones wrote:And those people who claim to be werewolves can be Therians in general. But, they don't call themselves werewolves.

And normally therians don't run around claiming to physically shift.

But that's the problem. The group who is claiming to be werewolves (as in, actual shapeshifting ) are making it up for attention.

True, therians don't normally call themselves werewolves, but I've seen some therians use that term to describe themselves on different (and older) websites... But it tends to be fairly obvious what they mean, if they use that term.

AngryGothChick wrote:

Morkulv wrote:In 2012 we will have a werewolf-apocalypse. The mayans predicted that you know.

Sounds cooler than my zombie-apocalypse theories lol.

...A werewolf apocalypse would be a lot better than a zombie apocalypse. You know, if you got turned, you would be awesome. (I'm not too fond of the idea of shambling around either as a slave (traditional myth) or looking for human flesh to eat (Hollywood).)

Noir-Okami wrote: ...A werewolf apocalypse would be a lot better than a zombie apocalypse. You know, if you got turned, you would be awesome. (I'm not too fond of the idea of shambling around either as a slave (traditional myth) or looking for human flesh to eat (Hollywood).)

A werewolf apocalypse is also marginally more plausible than a zombie one, since even if we're talking about Hollywood-style mindless weres they'd still have enough cunning to be all hunt-y and stalk-y rather than shamble about dumbly towards a human shape or loud noise.

And, of course, it's just a more badass apocalypse in general. Much more fast paced.

Aki wrote:And, of course, it's just a more badass apocalypse in general. Much more fast paced.

Have you seen Zombieland? The zombies can actually run... Bill Murray dies though, which is sad...but freaking hilarious when it happens...

please beware of pm spam. a while back i had somme guy asking me if i wass a shapeshifter. he was pretty perrsistant on asking

Thanks for the warning.

yeah no problem

Same thing happened to me,it is really irritating.

Noir-Okami wrote: True, therians don't normally call themselves werewolves, but I've seen some therians use that term to describe themselves on different (and older) websites... But it tends to be fairly obvious what they mean, if they use that term.

I've seen therians call themselves werewolves before too on other forums, but it is very annoying and misleading. One of my internet pet peeves.

It's annoying because they pretend that everyone understands and agrees with their definition of the term, so that every single post they make in a topic about werewolves requires a bunch of clarification.

Poster: "Do you think all werewolves should be affected by the full moon?"

Therian: "Well, the werewolves I know sometimes like to go out at night during the full moon, but it doesn't really affect me."

Poster: "Wait, so you're a werewolf, but you don't shapeshift during the full moon?"

Therian: "Oh no, shapeshifting is impossible!"

Poster: "Now wait a second... but you just called yourself a werewolf."

And so on and so forth until the pulling out of hair ensues. Dear therians: please do not go around with your chests all puffed up blithely calling yourselves werewolves. It is annoying for people who want to talk about the mythological werewolf creature whose word you've been misappropriating. You have your own word, it's called "therian," and it's more than sufficient. Thank you.

To ban is the solution if the poster is so annoying.

There are about 13 werewolf shifting types. I think I'd have to recheck my files. I personally feel that I am an Aura Shifting form, that means that its like players that " get there head into the game". Its a wonderful expericence to get out of my mind set and get into the mind set that makes you feel away from the world.

I think that it depends on what shift they are claim to be. But everyone is entitled to there own option.