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Black metal

Posted: Sat Sep 08, 2007 12:21 am
by Morkulv

Posted: Thu Jan 03, 2008 12:02 am
by Shadow Wulf
I cant say I listen to black metal. It just never catches on to me. I like almost all other kinds of rock though.

Posted: Thu Jan 03, 2008 3:13 am
by Xiroteus
Out of curiosity I looked up the ones I could find on You Tube. :cafinated:

I tend to like a little of almost anything, however, that goes beyond what I can like.

Black Metal is not for me.

Posted: Thu Jan 03, 2008 4:07 pm
by RedEye
Out of curiosity; how would you classify Nightwish? I rather enjoy them, even if they lost their fem. singer a while back and had to replace her.

Posted: Sat Jan 05, 2008 6:03 am
by Morkulv
Nightwish is nowhere close to black metal, or even metal.

Personally, I would classify Nightwish as crap. My opinion.

Posted: Sat Jan 05, 2008 6:04 am
by Morkulv
Xiroteus wrote:Out of curiosity I looked up the ones I could find on You Tube. :cafinated:

I tend to like a little of almost anything, however, that goes beyond what I can like.

Black Metal is not for me.
Then you don't like a little of almost anything either. :D

Posted: Sat Jan 05, 2008 6:13 am
by Xiroteus
Morkulv wrote:
Xiroteus wrote:Out of curiosity I looked up the ones I could find on You Tube. :cafinated:

I tend to like a little of almost anything, however, that goes beyond what I can like.

Black Metal is not for me.
Then you don't like a little of almost anything either. :D
Apparently not. :D

Almost anything.

Posted: Sun Jan 06, 2008 8:01 pm
by Berserker
I like most metal, but overall I'm a black metal professional. 8) Glad to see this thread pop up.

Randomly searching for black metal videos on YouTube probably won't result in anything useful for someone new to the genre. For any fan of heavy metal music uneducated in black metal, I'd have to say that starting from the historical beginning of the genre would be the best introduction.

Great starting points:

Venom - Welcome To Hell (1981)
Venom - Black Metal (1982)
Mercyful Fate - Melissa (1983)
Slayer - Show No Mercy (1983)

Possessed - Seven Churches
Celtic Frost - To Mega Therion
Sodom - In The Sign of Evil
Bathory - The Return

I consider those albums to be some of the most accessible, since they're more akin to thrash metal and the New Wave of British Heavy Metal than some of the later, more dramatically evolved acts of the 90s. Sadly, someone only used to metal like Nightwish, Dragonforce, etc. might still be repelled by these recommendations, but it's kind of hard to get "softer" than these albums without venturing outside black metal altogether.

Posted: Mon Jan 07, 2008 1:31 am
by RedEye
I dunno: I rather like the band Inkubus-Sukkubus, but their output is rather low.
In sad fact, most Black Metal bands seem to have-shall we say-sparse releases? I'd prefer at least one album/CD a year.

Posted: Mon Jan 07, 2008 7:14 am
by Berserker
RedEye wrote:I dunno: I rather like the band Inkubus-Sukkubus, but their output is rather low.
In sad fact, most Black Metal bands seem to have-shall we say-sparse releases? I'd prefer at least one album/CD a year.
:? Sparse releases? They have 10 albums!

Btw nothing against them, but they aren't a metal band. ;) They're rock.

Posted: Mon Jan 07, 2008 9:08 pm
by Morkulv
RedEye wrote:I dunno: I rather like the band Inkubus-Sukkubus, but their output is rather low.
In sad fact, most Black Metal bands seem to have-shall we say-sparse releases? I'd prefer at least one album/CD a year.
Are you serious? I know a lot of black metal bands that release almost more then 5 CD's per year or something...

Berserker: nice to see a fellow metalfan.

Personally I think symphonic black metal is a great way to get 'into' black metal for a lot of people. Bands like Dimmu Borgir, Emperor, and Limbonic Art are all a lot more melodic and accesible then most raw black metal bands (although I still love raw black metal).

Posted: Tue Jan 08, 2008 9:44 pm
by RedEye
Dimmu Borgir, Emperor, and Limbonic? I'll give them a listen.

I might be confusing Black Metal with something else... :?

Posted: Wed Jan 09, 2008 5:55 am
by Morkulv
Stormblast from Dimmu Borgir is a great album.

Prometheus - The Discipline of Fire & Demise from Emperor is very nice.

In Abhorrence Dementia from Limbonic Art is great.

:)

Posted: Wed Jan 09, 2008 6:40 am
by Morkulv
By the way; anyone else who want to give black metal a shot or just want to hear more black metal tracks just send me a message to add me on MSN and I'll send you some good songs.

Posted: Wed Jan 09, 2008 5:50 pm
by Miragh
Morkulv wrote:Nightwish is nowhere close to black metal, or even metal.

Personally, I would classify Nightwish as crap. My opinion.
Wahaha! Couldn't agree more dude! Had to be said. And same goes for After Forever :evil:

Haven't heard of Aborym, I definitely need to check that one out!
What are your thoughts on Burzum?

Posted: Wed Jan 09, 2008 8:17 pm
by Morkulv
Burzum is great, and the only black metal act I know of that is actually soothing without loosing its black metal edge.

Aborym is a great industrial / black metal band.

Re: Black metal

Posted: Wed Oct 29, 2008 8:24 am
by InfiniteShadowMugen
Is anything by Cradle of Filth considered black metal?

Re: Black metal

Posted: Wed Oct 29, 2008 9:13 am
by Berserker
No, I wouldn't consider anything by Cradle of Filth to be black metal. Black metal is as much about ideology as it is about aesthetic, and ideologically, Cradle of Filth don't fit the mold.

I wrote more about it here in the Black Metal FAQ:

http://pwnt.co.uk/bm/

Re: Black metal

Posted: Mon Feb 23, 2009 5:11 pm
by Morkulv
InfiniteShadowMugen wrote:Is anything by Cradle of Filth considered black metal?
There are people who indeed classify Cradle of Filth as black metal, but most of the time it has to be said that those people usually don't really have full knowledge of black metal as a genre.

Venom is great thrash/black metal.