pack ranking

bluephoenix · Post by **bluephoenix** » Sun Jun 12, 2005 6:55 pm

does anyone know the officials of the pack rating system? i know someone does but could you maybe explain the whole thing. i have the jist of it, but not any specifics.

outwarddoodles · Post by **outwarddoodles** » Sun Jun 12, 2005 7:46 pm

We don't rank people here. You may be detested or loved through your posts but it doesn't matter on the quantity but the quality of your posts. The thing on the side calculates quantity, which has no meaning here unless your Fig and like to brag about it.

bluephoenix · Post by **bluephoenix** » Sun Jun 12, 2005 9:45 pm

i know that. i just meant does anyone know which numbers it calculates a higher ranking at? not that it matter's that much, i'm just curious.

Vilkacis · Post by **Vilkacis** » Sun Jun 12, 2005 10:04 pm

I'm pretty sure:

0 - 4 No Moons - No title
5 - 9 One Moon - Just Bitten
10 - 19 Two Moons - Dealing with the Change
20 - 29 Three Moons - Pack Member
30 - 49 Four Moons - Pack Leader
50+ Five Moons - Legendary

We've talked about changing this scale, but I don't know if anyone in charge is actually going to do so. (The discussion started with Vuldari's post here.)

-- Vilkacis

Scott Gardener · Post by **Scott Gardener** » Sun Jun 12, 2005 11:04 pm

Some have complained that the scale moves too quickly, making us surrounded by legends. (Others point out that werewolves are indeed legends, and yes, ShadowBlaze, weretigers are also in the legendary category.)

The scale was created early on, before it was known how much traffic this site would generate. It was also created before a lot of other precedents were set, and a lot has changed since Day One, two days before Thanksgiving 2004.

Thankfully, we're a close-knit community with almost no flaming or immature behavior. Against the inevitable occasional role-playing "I'm a p-shifter," we've answered with a polite "that's nice, but can you back that up?" rather than the contemptful stomping that most werewolf-themed BBSes tend to do.

There are those who are more active, but I'd say the only true high ranks would have to be those who are involved with the movie Freeborn (Anthony Brownrigg, the mastermind who came up with the idea of asking werewolf fans what we want in their movie, plus his wife Silver, plus other members of ReQuest Entertainment, like akujiwulf), and site moderators like Figarou, who have amazing amounts of free time. (He's logged more than 2500 posts as of this writing.)

But, there's also people like the artist Goldenwolf, who are known and respected for their own contributions to the popularization of werewolves and to the therian community at large.

Even those who sign on and post once or not at all are still doing a service to the ultimate cause, because the Brownriggs are using this site's traffic as evidence of werewolf fandom demographics, so he can prove to the production companies that he's not making this stuff up about werewolf fans wanting werewolves that have tails and don't walk on ceilings.

Figarou · Post by **Figarou** » Mon Jun 13, 2005 1:35 am

outwarddoodles wrote:We don't rank people here. You may be detested or loved through your posts but it doesn't matter on the quantity but the quality of your posts. The thing on the side calculates quantity, which has no meaning here unless your Fig and like to brag about it.

What!?! I don't brag about my position. Take this you werewolf wanna be llama!!

I'm a pack member like everyone else. No ranking. All are equal here.

Kzinistzerg · Post by **Kzinistzerg** » Mon Jun 13, 2005 8:19 am

The post # ranking needs to be stretched out more, but we don't really have an official ranking...

ChaosWolf · Post by **ChaosWolf** » Mon Jun 13, 2005 11:01 am

Ranking?

I'm... uh... um....

I'm fuzzy.

Vilkacis · Post by **Vilkacis** » Mon Jun 13, 2005 11:16 am

Shadowblaze wrote:The post # ranking needs to be stretched out more

I agree. As is, Legendary doesn't really mean anything. I like this ranking, myself (base 3):

under 3 (no moons)
4 - 9 (one moon)
10 - 27 (two moons)
28 - 81 (three moons)
82 - 243 (four moons)
245 and on (five moons + custom title)

-- Vilkacis

bluephoenix · Post by **bluephoenix** » Mon Jun 13, 2005 11:19 am

i agree in full with what everyone is saying about equality. but i do think that is a rather short scale. but who's to judge. we can only say.

Apharoh · Post by **Apharoh** » Mon Jun 13, 2005 1:08 pm

Figarou wrote:
outwarddoodles wrote:We don't rank people here. You may be detested or loved through your posts but it doesn't matter on the quantity but the quality of your posts. The thing on the side calculates quantity, which has no meaning here unless your Fig and like to brag about it.

What!?! I don't brag about my position. Take this you werewolf wanna be llama!!

In the llama defense... yes u do i remember u saying on several occasions at akon
" I have 2500 some odd posts on the site"

Figarou · Post by **Figarou** » Mon Jun 13, 2005 1:30 pm

Apharoh wrote:
In the llama defense... yes u do i remember u saying on several occasions at akon
" I have 2500 some odd posts on the site"

So? Everybody knows that. Anyone who joins this forum will notice right away.

It doesn't matter the # of posts. I'm not a high ranking official. Just a Pack member like everyone else. I just happen to be here everyday so I can keep up with whats going on.

Arania · Post by **Arania** » Mon Jun 13, 2005 2:16 pm

*shrugs* Well - I can see pros and cons to both - in the short scale it makes even new people feel special, like they've accomplished something. It encourages people to stay around and chat long enough to get some more moons to their name because it's few enough to be a realistic goal - and by that time they're here to stay ^_~. And with how active most people are to the boards, most people who have gotten to legendary status are known around the boards.

On the other hand, there really is no gradiation beyond the legendary besides getting administrator or some other position, and I can understand the really oldbies with hundreds of posts to their names to want more deviation from someone with less than a hundred *shrugs*

Vilkacis · Post by **Vilkacis** » Mon Jun 13, 2005 3:32 pm

Arania wrote:*shrugs* Well - I can see pros and cons to both - in the short scale it makes even new people feel special, like they've accomplished something. It encourages people to stay around and chat long enough to get some more moons to their name because it's few enough to be a realistic goal - and by that time they're here to stay ^_~. And with how active most people are to the boards, most people who have gotten to legendary status are known around the boards.

On the other hand, there really is no gradiation beyond the legendary besides getting administrator or some other position, and I can understand the really oldbies with hundreds of posts to their names to want more deviation from someone with less than a hundred *shrugs*

Oldbie! (Oldbie?) I'll have you know, young whippersnapper, that back in the good ol' days a youngin' that spoke like that would've gotten her ears bit off, I tell ya'... The disrespect these days, ehhhhh.

(BTW, I made my first post 3 days before you did)

Anyway, I can see your point. Maybe instead of stretching the scale, we can just add to it. After 5 moons, we can extend the scale to include, say, a single full moon, two full moons, up to five full moons (and administrators can use the blue moderator graphic to differentiate themselves).

0 - 4 (No Moons - No title)
5 - 9 (One Moon - Just Bitten)
10 - 19 (Two Moons - Dealing with the Change)
20 - 29 (Three Moons - Pack Member)
30 - 49 (Four Moons - Pack Leader)
50 - 99 (Five Moons - Pack Elder)
100 - 149 (One Full Moon - Legendary/Custom Title)
150 - 199 (Two Full Moons - Legendary/Custom Title)
200 - 299 (Three Full Moons - Legendary/Custom Title)
300 - 399 (Four Full Moons - Legendary/Custom Title)
400+ (Five Full Moons - Legendary/Custom Title)

Or some variation thereof. Sound good?

-- Vilkacis

Figarou · Post by **Figarou** » Mon Jun 13, 2005 3:37 pm

Vilkacis wrote: Oldbie! (Oldbie?) I'll have you know, young whippersnapper, that back in the good ol' days a youngin' that spoke like that would've gotten her ears bit off, I tell ya'... The disrespect these days, ehhhhh.

-- Vilkacis

And all that said while making a whistle sound.

Vilkacis · Post by **Vilkacis** » Mon Jun 13, 2005 4:01 pm

0 - 4 (No Moons - No title)

5 - 9 (Just Bitten)

10 - 19 (Dealing with the Change)

20 - 29 (Pack Member)

30 - 49 (Pack Leader)

50 - 99 (Pack Elder)

100 - 149 (Legendary/Custom Title)

150 - 199 (Legendary/Custom Title)

200 - 299 (Legendary/Custom Title)

300 - 399 (Legendary/Custom Title)

400+ (Legendary/Custom Title)

Moderator

Administrator

-- Vilkacis

Vilkacis · Post by **Vilkacis** » Mon Jun 13, 2005 4:18 pm

Alternatively:

Anyone have a preference between the two styles?

-- Vilkacis

Aki · Post by **Aki** » Mon Jun 13, 2005 5:48 pm

I like this one. ^_^

Vilkacis wrote:0 - 4 (No Moons - No title)

5 - 9 (Just Bitten)
10 - 19 (Dealing with the Change)
20 - 29 (Pack Member)
30 - 49 (Pack Leader)
50 - 99 (Pack Elder)

100 - 149 (Legendary/Custom Title)
150 - 199 (Legendary/Custom Title)
200 - 299 (Legendary/Custom Title)
300 - 399 (Legendary/Custom Title)
400+ (Legendary/Custom Title)

Moderator

Administrator

-- Vilkacis

bluephoenix · Post by **bluephoenix** » Mon Jun 13, 2005 6:22 pm

i'll second that. i like the "Pack Elder" title. it sounds cool. not as cool as legendary, but almost.

maybe we can give the title "God of The Pack" to people involved with the movie like AB and Silver and akujiwolf and such.

and maybe for Pack members who get cast, "Demi-god of the Pack"

Vilkacis · Post by **Vilkacis** » Mon Jun 13, 2005 6:46 pm

I can't say as I care for the God-titles, but if we implement custom titles, I can certainly see them having the option to choose their own.

-- Vilkacis

outwarddoodles · Post by **outwarddoodles** » Mon Jun 13, 2005 8:12 pm

I like the one Vilkacis had suggested.

What!?! I don't brag about my position. Take this you werewolf wanna be llama!!

Werewolf in llama's clothing.

Akugarou · Post by **Akugarou** » Mon Jun 13, 2005 10:25 pm

Hey! See how..

Akugarou · Post by **Akugarou** » Mon Jun 13, 2005 10:25 pm

..easy it is..

bluephoenix · Post by **bluephoenix** » Mon Jun 13, 2005 10:26 pm

Vilkacis wrote:0 - 4 (No Moons - No title)

5 - 9 (Just Bitten)
10 - 19 (Dealing with the Change)
20 - 29 (Pack Member)
30 - 49 (Pack Leader)
50 - 99 (Pack Elder)

100 - 149 (Legendary/Custom Title)
150 - 199 (Legendary/Custom Title)
200 - 299 (Legendary/Custom Title)
300 - 399 (Legendary/Custom Title)
400+ (Legendary/Custom Title)

Moderator

Administrator

-- Vilkacis

who would we have to talk to about changing that? i think that would be a really cool idea.

Akugarou · Post by **Akugarou** » Mon Jun 13, 2005 10:27 pm

..to get your ranking to go up?