How do you like moon-triggered werewolves?

RedEye · Post by **RedEye** » Fri Sep 29, 2006 3:34 pm

My personal observation is that, yes; the moon does affect Were's. They can see better, for one thing (More Light).
Since I view Werewolves as essentially Mutated Humans, they are human enough to be affected by what they have seen in the Movies...hence, lunar triggered Shifting.
It largely depends on just how much Humanity and how much Wolfishness you ascribe to Werewolves...are they Humans with 'something extra' or are they 'slaves' to the inner Wolf?
I suspect that most Were' newbies would go the Lunar route, until some more experienced Were' asks them "Why don't you shift at other times? You really aren't locked into that Lunar business, you know."
Perhaps there is a Religious reason...Full Wolves 'sing' to the full moon...Perhaps Were's would develope a Religion around the Moon, to fulfill an inner need...
They probably would use reason one, up there...they can see better.

Rhuen · Post by **Rhuen** » Sat Sep 30, 2006 12:34 am

a thought on the different things and superhero vs curse scenarios.

What happens when these three meet?

someone who has been cursed to be a mindless beast once a month and goes on a rampage,

a shapeshifter type werewolf that controls their own transformation (this type is the born a werewolf and in control)

and a beast-shifter type that is a human with genetic alterations to allow them to transform into a facimily of a werewolf (the superhero version)

Why have just one type of werewolf in the same world? now that is really the most boreing thing in these movies.

Maybe some triggered by the moon, others not. But maybe the moon triggered are the more psychotic and possibly vicious and strong pound per pound. But the Beast-Shifter the more in-control but least monstrous.

Vuldari · Post by **Vuldari** » Sat Sep 30, 2006 12:40 am

I would like to apologise for my rudeness earlier. I was insulting others while expressing my opinion, and that is not cool. My attitude was totally not okay.

I'm sorry.

Looking back, what I said can easily be interpreted as "This way is the BEST way, and all of you are stupid for not realising this"...which is not only unforgivably rude, but just plain Not True.

I seem to have a bit of a two faced personality. One moment I am being all kind and understanding, but suddenly, in a different thread I'm trying to force my perceptions and preferenced down everyones throats, and being a real jerk about it too.

I don't know why I do that. I'll try to controll myself a little better.

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Jessie-Simone · Post by **Jessie-Simone** » Mon Oct 02, 2006 4:30 am

Transforms three nights in a row, when the moon looks full, but is more wolfish on the real full moon night, less wolfish the other two. I think that makes scens that they slowly progres over the 2 nights then fully on the 3 night.

FoxOfWar · Post by **FoxOfWar** » Mon Oct 02, 2006 5:21 am

Hmm... lemme see.

If it were what I'd like to be... totally(or at least near) in control, able to shift anytime. (Fox!)

Story wise... I like wilder stuff. Actually, at the beginning, anything but the change controlled by the on "cursed"/"blessed" (depends of the point of view, really). Then maybe later when the character has gone over the crisis and gained some control...

I voted for the 3 days, because that's what I'd use if ever were to write a werewolf story. Where my were's were when I happen to do that werestory then... *smirk*

Khuwwa · Post by **Khuwwa** » Mon Oct 02, 2006 9:57 am

I picked "every night with varying degrees", as vrikasatma said, becase it is most interesting. But I think it should be more mental, less physical. If you are going to use the whole moon aspect, then transforming for a few days roughly near the full moon sounds best... I really don't understand why in the stories it's always One night only! Or Three Nights the beast shall appear... I always thought of it as a more complex, flexible, biological sort of thing. I would have picked the other option if it did not have to be more than three days, because it could be two, three, four days, varying with the werewolf's mood, how long it's been since the last shift, and any other reasons...

Kavik · Post by **Kavik** » Mon Oct 02, 2006 2:37 pm

I personally prefer for a variety of options to all be true; it differes from werewolf to werewolf. For the character I'm writing about, the Moon makes transformation occur when it is full, but he can still accomplish it other times of the month with effort. He also loses ALL control on the one night of the full moon, but can exert some control during the day before and after, and is practically himself when changing out of phase.

The Full Moon is an iconic feature for the cursed werewolf. It';s often fun to drop it in favor of the surprised minster hunter who THOUGHT his prey would be helpless under a crescent moon, but for Tragic Monster Syndrome, it's hard to beat.

psiguy · Post by **psiguy** » Mon Oct 02, 2006 5:23 pm

Gee... this sounds as random as...

I am a werewolf and I have four nails, when do I transform? I don't have to! Waflles don't have teeth. :p

Whoever associated transformation with the moon must have been a silly movie producer who wanted to instill supertition into the creature, but hated to do his reasearch. Not all Transformations are associated with the moon.

There are various folklore exploreable through the web that has had stories where transformation occured outside of a lunar cycle.

That is why I chose none of the above

RedWolf · Post by **RedWolf** » Mon Oct 02, 2006 5:39 pm

Maybe someone should claim that the crescent moon is linked to a weredeer transformation? Deer activity, especially during the fall rut season, is widely believed to be linked to the lunar cycle. The "horns" of the crescent are also likened by some to deer antlers.

vrikasatma · Post by **vrikasatma** » Mon Oct 02, 2006 8:20 pm

Cervids in rut are most active during the full moon, so that might not be a good analogy. However, the crescent moon would be VERY appropriate for a werebull transformation.

I'll check around and see what moon phase (if any) the Running of the Bulls takes place under. Hopefully this won't cause a firestorm, but wouldn't it be wild to go to a bullfight and suddenly the bull rears up and becomes a Minotaur?!

RedWolf · Post by **RedWolf** » Mon Oct 02, 2006 9:01 pm

So, maybe you could have someone turn into a minotaur when the moon enters Taurus?

vrikasatma · Post by **vrikasatma** » Mon Oct 02, 2006 9:13 pm

Or the werewolf change when the moon enters Scorpio?

Not many people know that Scorpio is ruled by a series of constellations; Scorpio first, then Lupus, and finally Aquila.

Rhuen · Post by **Rhuen** » Mon Oct 02, 2006 11:02 pm

Something for Sci-fi. a werewolf transforms when ever the Star Sirius is present in the sky. This would make for an everynight transformation unless they go to the souther hemisphere or something.

Lupin · Post by **Lupin** » Mon Oct 02, 2006 11:06 pm

Of course, the trick would be knowing that Sirius is known as the "Dog Star".

Rhuen · Post by **Rhuen** » Mon Oct 02, 2006 11:35 pm

Lupin wrote:Of course, the trick would be knowing that Sirius is known as the "Dog Star".

did I forget to mention that

Ookamikaze · Post by **Ookamikaze** » Fri Oct 06, 2006 10:41 am

Well as for m-shifting then I do it almost anytime but my energy rises higher as the full moon approaches. And no I can't p-shift but there are small changes.

GENSI · Post by **GENSI** » Fri Oct 06, 2006 11:36 pm

the-moon-only-gives-the-werewolf-stregnth-and-power-but-the-human-body-cant-hadle-it-so-the-body-forces-itself-to-change-so-the-werewolf-could-use-the-power-with-out0tiring-the-muscles-and-cells

Vuldari · Post by **Vuldari** » Sat Oct 07, 2006 10:30 pm

GENSI wrote:the-moon-only-gives-the-werewolf-stregnth-and-power-but-the-human-body-cant-hadle-it-so-the-body-forces-itself-to-change-so-the-werewolf-could-use-the-power-with-out0tiring-the-muscles-and-cells

Interesting opinion. I'll have to add that to my list of possible explanations.

However, please don't type it like that. Not only is it difficult to read, but it makes it feel like you are trying to say that is the SINGLE, ONLY answer...

...and the angry face at the end suggests that you have hostile emotions towards anyone who tries to disagree with you.

FYI... that sort of attitude does not fly very far around here. I respect your opinion, and I think that is a good idea. Now PLEASE...return the favor, relax and respect ours.

Oh!... and...

WELCOME TO "THE PACK" GENSI .................

GENSI · Post by **GENSI** » Sun Oct 08, 2006 5:25 pm

SORRY-AND-THANKS

Set · Post by **Set** » Sun Oct 08, 2006 5:37 pm

Caps lock isn't much better. *chomps GENSI as the traditional welcome, a bit hard though, and runs off with blood dripping from her maw*

Figarou · Post by **Figarou** » Sun Oct 08, 2006 5:40 pm

Set wrote:Caps lock isn't much better. *chomps GENSI as the traditional welcome, a bit hard though, and runs off with blood dripping from her maw*

napkin?

Set · Post by **Set** » Sun Oct 08, 2006 5:41 pm

No thanks.

Black Fang · Post by **Black Fang** » Sun Oct 08, 2006 6:26 pm

A werewolf (or lycanthrope) in folklore and mythology is a person who shapeshifts into a wolf, either purposely, by using magic, or after being placed under a curse. The medieval chronicler Gervase of Tilbury associated the transformation with the appearance of the full moon, but this concept was rarely associated with the werewolf until the idea was picked up by modern fiction writers-Wikipedia

Turns out full moons and werewolves was just picked up from medieval times by writers.

nachoboy · Post by **nachoboy** » Sun Oct 08, 2006 9:11 pm

i think that for new were's, it would be triggered by things like subconscious thought, including thoughts that the moon might affect things, emotions, and other such things.

when were's get more used to it and practiced, i imagine that maybe they could change at will.

also, i think that the moon's phases may make it easier to shift, but not command any shifting. you know what i mean?

Rhuen · Post by **Rhuen** » Mon Oct 09, 2006 1:01 am

Something to keep in mind the word were means human not werebeast.
I know its not important, just something to throw out there.

were (wer) man: wolf werewolf=man wolf.

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