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The new world/national order!!

Post by Anubis »

Perhaps I've been listening too much anti-government music lately IE. Rage against the machine, the latest Disturbed CD. :P and doing too much US government homework.

I was thinking what kind of government would you make for a nation or the whole world if you wanted to?

Me,

it would be similar to the democratic federal government of the United States. Instead of three branches their would be four. Executive, Judicial, legislative, and finally finical. the first three would their jobs but the finical would take take of the budgeting and other money handling stuff. This is here to keep the legislative branch keep getting them selves raises and putting the government in debt, also the finical would take care of taxes.
And to keep them from doing the same thing as our congress is doing. their will be some checks and balances to keep that from happening.

Also the Judaical branch will have some restrictions and more checks and balances (because those old farts have too much power)

There will be the same bill of rights but the government have no sedious libel to protect it.

There will be a free capitalist economy but the larger businesses accounting practices and how it treats is consumers and employees will be monitored by the government to protect the public from corporate greed and corruption.

And politicians will only have three terms of any office to protect the public from corruption and old white farts that out lived their usefulness and don't know the slightest idea what to do in a drastically changed world from their era.

that's what i got.
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Post by Set »

Do I get to run it? If I did, I'd be an evil dictator. And this is what I'd do with the world:

Say bye bye to all those stupid leftover laws. You can't bring a horse into a bar unless it's wearing pants? Yeah, useless. Gone.

There'd be none of this giving certain groups of people privelages s***. You're all equal, damn it. You're ALL going to suffer the same amount of abuse under my boot. No black history month, no money for you just because you're x race, none of that!

I'd have restrictions on everything like woah. For example: there are too many people in the world. I'd have some type of birth control in place. China's far too soft. You can have children ONCE. After the child is born both parents are sterilized then and there. There's enough strain on the planet without sex crazed freaks spitting out babies left and right.

Technology. I'd put those scientists to work. I don't care how much squawking the religious fanatics do. We're going to have better sources of energy, cures for diseases, and cloned animals. I draw the line at cloning humans, however.

Every place would have the same laws. No variances between states, countries, whatever. They'd all be the same.

It'd just be...better, you know? Well...for me anyway. :grinp:
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Set wrote:I draw the line at cloning humans, however.
I don't. One of me at work, doing the regular stuff... another of me at work, clearing up the backlog... a third one of me at work, doing the field work I'm literally YEARS behind on... a fourth one of me at home giving it a much-delayed spring clean... a fifth one of me browsing the internet... a sixth one of me catching up with the backlog of books... a seventh one of me catching up with the backlog of DVDs... I might finally get something done!

Or maybe not...
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Unless you had some super advanced technology, your clone is going to be a baby and grow at the exact same rate the average human does. They're not going to be doing your work for you. Thinking they'd even want to is foolish in and of itself.
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Post by Fenrir »

I respect your want to do this Anubis, and I'am glad you're going to say something against what you don't believe in :D *kudos to you* however your system is flawed aswell, the Judicial Branch has only one power that's worth anything and that's judicial review, and that's only one flaw. Why wouldn't the financial branch just give themselves raises or their buddies in Congress?

Edit: Anubis, you can't have a free capitilist markett and then have the government monitor the major buisiness.....that's socialism....

Oh and my government would be easy.

A pure democracy, where the people themselves vote on everything through a small pad that is given to them by the government. Though to be able to vote this way you have to read the bill that is wanting to be passed.
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Post by MoonKit »

So kind of on topic here:

Im listening to Rise Against as I read this. :D They do anti-political stuff.
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Post by PariahPoet »

Anubis- don't let some musician do your thinking for you.
They have and agenda, and are just trying to make everyone believe the same way they do. They are not going against popular views, they are feeding right into them. You want to be different from everybody else? Try liking GWB! (not telling you to do so, just making a point) The majority of Americans think just like your political bands do! If you consider both sides and that view makes sense to you, then great! Stand up for your views and make them known, but do the research yourself, don't just go charging around following some band's ideas. Just because they play music doesn't mean they are more politically intelligent than you! A lot of these guys don't know squat about what's going on other than what their agents tell them, and popular oppinion sells albums.
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Mine would be something pulled out of a Heinlein book. So go read his stuff.

I really think you only need one law: you can do whatever you want, whenever you want, however you please, and have perfect freedom to do so, providing such actions do lot limit the freedoms of others.

and none of that religious crap.

also equal treatment, like set says: you're all Americans (or, insert country of your choice), dammit, so stop acting like you're not all equal. And stop asking for special treatment, because that, my friends, is not EQUALITY. that's hypocrisy.
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Pariah me listening to anti-gov. music has nothing to do with this. it was one of the reasons why i started this thread, but i always hated the hypocritical bull s*** that most governments around the world keep crapping out. i just wanted to see what would some body change if they could.

also fenrir i already said that their would be the same checks and balances to prevent that. like the executive would handle the pay checks for the people in the financial and legislative can over rule some budgeting decisions if necessary.

then fine a little socialism in a economy can benefit the public if done responsibly and give most of the power to the business.

and i said this is a democratic government the people elect their leaders like we do here.
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id stay out of it all together....politics is crap.... just minding my own business and staying out of the humans crap fest is all i want to do...

to hell with politics...

just give me the wilderness and my mate.... thats all i need. :howl:  :oo
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Set wrote:Unless you had some super advanced technology, your clone is going to be a baby and grow at the exact same rate the average human does. They're not going to be doing your work for you. Thinking they'd even want to is foolish in and of itself.
Relax, I was just trying to be funny. Personally I have no interest in ruling the country, world, universe or whatever. I'd settle for being the absolute dictator of the two ninths of an acre that's got me on it.
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Post by MoonKit »

I agree alot with Set. I would totally be a dictator. But I would enforce different breeding restrictions. Only people of a certain intelligence and health can breed. That will cut down on the population real fast. And there is nothing wrong with it...how else does one's species evolve? Its the natural way to let only the best of your species breed. And people born with serious defects and disorders are killed on the spot. If you couldnt make it on your own as an adult, you're out.

Yeah, sure, its strict, but you know what? The world would be a better place. Less friggen people means more land, less polution and more then likely less war.

I dont agree with clonning though and finding cures for diseases will no longer be funded. By cutting otu the bad health, we should evolve to overcome the disease.

I also agree with the no special priveledges crap. We're all the same. And animals all have rights! And church and state are going to stay extremly separate. No saying "under god" or any of that crap. You can worship whatever man made dieity you want as long as its not in my schools, libraries or other government building.
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I think that everyone should be able to worship wherever/however they please. This "no saying merry Christmas" fad is bull crap. I wouldn't get all bent out of shape if someone wished me happy Hanukkah. Actually, I would like to see more of that- people openly celebrating what they believe in(no matter what it is).

Anubis- Socialism is not power to businesses. (Businesses and interest groups own our country, I'd love to see an end to that!) Socialism is giving businesses to the government. Much less room for entrepeneurs and creativity. (yes, yes, this is the abbreviated version of a much longer explanation that I am too tired to go into now)
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Fine the, what ever. Just call me comrade anubis then if you feel that way.

I think that big business needs to be monitered because people are being hurt by corprate greed and corruption. I'm not saying having the gvernment controll evey aspect of a business. i'm just saying the governent wach for any actions that could be harmful to the employees and their consumers with out probable cause.

and i'm not changing my view on this!!
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Sometimes I wonder... what is the best government for me?

I'm somewhere between the "everyone is on the same ground" anarchy - and the "I have a theoretically stable and editable by my opinion government" Democracy.

Tough choice for me. ??
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White Paw wrote:id stay out of it all together....politics is crap.... just minding my own business and staying out of the humans crap fest is all i want to do...

to hell with politics...

just give me the wilderness and my mate.... thats all i need. :howl:  :oo
Ditto, Except I'm more of a lone wolf personally.

Although I will go as far as to say that I believe that no matter what the human race does their can never be peace, because human nature is subject to corruption.
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Anubis wrote:
I think that big business needs to be monitered because people are being hurt by corprate greed and corruption. I'm not saying having the gvernment controll evey aspect of a business. i'm just saying the governent wach for any actions that could be harmful to the employees and their consumers with out probable cause.
Kind of like my complaints in my last post about big business owning the country? What is your argument? That is what I said already.
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Oh sorry,

it sounded like you were against my views. Try to clearify what your saying, i thought we were on a verge of another flame war. :(
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