How tall should they be?

Lupin · Post by **Lupin** » Tue Jul 19, 2005 10:06 am

Shadowblaze wrote:haha! can you imaging a werwolf one foot tall....

Ankle biter

Shadow Wulf · Post by **Shadow Wulf** » Tue Jul 19, 2005 10:07 am

Shadowblaze wrote:haha! can you imaging a werwolf one foot tall....

he really wouldnt be much of a threat*gets a Chiwawa* go get'em Blue!!

Fenrir · Post by **Fenrir** » Tue Jul 19, 2005 10:11 am

lol it would be like you just pick it up and toss it to the pitbull next door

Doruk Golcu · Post by **Doruk Golcu** » Tue Jul 19, 2005 11:01 am

Hmmmmm... however, we should also consider that a werewolf probably won't have the perfectly upright stance of a human... So, 1 or 2 feet hunched, or not?

WereDog · Post by **WereDog** » Tue Jul 19, 2005 11:20 am

if they are hunched they will propably be theyre normal height, or just slightly above.

WereDog · Post by **WereDog** » Tue Jul 19, 2005 11:26 am

god damn double post!.. pardon my french.

Lupin · Post by **Lupin** » Tue Jul 19, 2005 11:30 am

WereDog wrote:god damn double post!.. pardon my french.

There's a delete button next to the edit/quote buttons.

WereDog · Post by **WereDog** » Tue Jul 19, 2005 11:57 am

no there isnt. you must have some special account.

Kzinistzerg · Post by **Kzinistzerg** » Tue Jul 19, 2005 12:02 pm

I don't see any delete button...

Lupin · Post by **Lupin** » Tue Jul 19, 2005 12:28 pm

Just a minute...
Edit:

Vilkacis · Post by **Vilkacis** » Tue Jul 19, 2005 12:44 pm

The delete button only appears if your post is the last one on the page. Once someone else posts after you, you no longer have the option to delete it.

Anyway, there's an existing thread here. It really was in plain sight on the third page. Please skim through the existing topics if you suspect you might be making a duplicate thread.

-- Vilkacis

Terastas · Post by **Terastas** » Tue Jul 19, 2005 12:53 pm

Vilkacis wrote:Anyway, there's an existing thread here. It really was in plain sight on the third page. Please skim through the existing topics if you suspect you might be making a duplicate thread.

-- Vilkacis

The previous thread's title was "How tall should they be?" In all fairness, there are only four pages worth of topic titles; it should not be that hard and/or time-consuming to sort through them. As has been stated enough, most of us would rather you just resurrect the old thread than duplicate it.

Vuldari · Post by **Vuldari** » Thu Jul 21, 2005 12:13 pm

I still think that a 2+ foot height increase is WAY too much...unless it is a purely magical transformation which is supposed to change the person into an unstopable Wolf-Beast, in which case, go for broke and make them 10-12 feet tall. YOWZA! That's cool too...in the right context.

Otherwise, if you are trying to go for a relatively Believable Werewolf, I'd say that after the boost from the switch from plantigrade to Digitgrade, minus the standing height lost from the bent over posture, a werewolf would be an average of just under a foot taller if measured from the tops of their ears. (Though undeniably much bigger in appearance and actual volume).

In other words, the level of their eyes when looking at you would be an inch or two above where they were before...but the Werewolf is slouching and bending down now. (If you can bend down and still have your eyes Above where they were before, I'd say that is a pretty impressive size increase.)

Shadow Wulf · Post by **Shadow Wulf** » Thu Jul 21, 2005 12:30 pm

who says they have to slouch down, in Van helsing the werewolfs barely slouch and Underworld they didnt slouch at all

Lupin · Post by **Lupin** » Thu Jul 21, 2005 12:33 pm

Vuldari wrote:In other words, the level of their eyes when looking at you would be an inch or two above where they were before...but the Werewolf is slouching and bending down now.

Why would the werewolf be bent over?

WereDog · Post by **WereDog** » Thu Jul 21, 2005 1:22 pm

because a human stands up on two legs, and a wolf stands on four. then it looks more natural if the gestalt is standing in a possition that can easily change between the two of em.

but thats just my opinion.

Figarou · Post by **Figarou** » Thu Jul 21, 2005 1:34 pm

Vuldari wrote:In other words, the level of their eyes when looking at you would be an inch or two above where they were before...but the Werewolf is slouching and bending down now.

I don't want the werewolf to look like its suffering from Osteoporosis.

I liked the way the Van Helsing were standing also.

Lupin · Post by **Lupin** » Thu Jul 21, 2005 1:45 pm

Dogs standing on their back legs don't look hunched.

Vuldari · Post by **Vuldari** » Thu Jul 21, 2005 1:48 pm

Figarou wrote:I don't want the werewolf to look like its suffering from Osteoporosis.

I liked the way the Van Helsing were standing also.

Of course not. I didn't mean to quite such an extent. The way the Werewolves in VH and even your own Avatar have a slightly "forward" center of gravity is what I meant.

Not completely hunched over. (Like the WW's in the "Bloodmoon" Expansion for Morrowind.)

Vuldari · Post by **Vuldari** » Thu Jul 21, 2005 1:53 pm

Lupin wrote:Dogs standing on their back legs don't look hunched.
http://fenrir.nonexiste.net/~lupin/Walk ... months.jpg

No...but it IS leaning forward. I didn't use the word "Hunched".

Lupin · Post by **Lupin** » Thu Jul 21, 2005 1:55 pm

Vuldari wrote:
Lupin wrote:Dogs standing on their back legs don't look hunched.
http://fenrir.nonexiste.net/~lupin/Walk ... months.jpg
No...but it IS leaning forward. I didn't use the word "Hunched".

Humans lean foward while walking as well. It doesn't signifigantly affect their height.

Vuldari · Post by **Vuldari** » Thu Jul 21, 2005 2:14 pm

Lupin wrote:Humans lean foward as well. It doesn't signifigantly affect their height.

Niether does standing on ones toes add more than a few insignificant inches to ones height. What I was getting at was that these changes would add up to almost no difference in standing height without measuring the ears as well, but the person would still look considerably larger regardless of this.

Figarou · Post by **Figarou** » Thu Jul 21, 2005 2:14 pm

well, the wolf's neck is designed to move freely compared to the human. It may appear like its leaning forward a bit when standing on 2 legs.

If the wolf aligns his neck with the spine, he'll be standing straight up like a human.

When the wolf is on all fours, his head is held up high.

Humans on all fours will have a hard time holding the head up high like a wolf. It'll put a curve in the neck line. It won't be aligned with the spine and it'll give us an odd body position. Its also a pain in the neck!! (no pun in 10 did)

Lupin · Post by **Lupin** » Thu Jul 21, 2005 2:44 pm

Vuldari · Post by **Vuldari** » Thu Jul 21, 2005 3:16 pm

Lupin wrote:I just don't see where you get the "bent over posture" from. Digitrade animals on two legs can stand straight like humans.

Figarou wrote:well, the wolf's neck is designed to move freely compared to the human. It may appear like its leaning forward a bit when standing on 2 legs.
I could see "leaning forward" but not "bent over".

Indeed...it seems my words were unanimously interpreted in the exaggerated sense. I only meant enough to counteract the minute difference created by standing on ones toes in a digitgrade stance.

A humans shoulders and skull are almost perfectly centered above thier hips in a natural standing position. However, on 90% of the werewolves I have seen in images on the internet, the shoulders are forward compared to the hips, and the head even further so. How would you describe that in comparison to human posture? I thought "bent over" was a reasonable description. I didn't mean 'doubled over horizontal'. I guess I should have just used the word "leaning" rather than "bent", as that seems to have confused everyone.

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