laws

Searif · Post by **Searif** » Fri Jul 22, 2005 8:36 pm

If werewolves came into existance, do you think any laws would change or be added because of werewolves?

Fenrir · Post by **Fenrir** » Fri Jul 22, 2005 10:01 pm

Maybe a decline or increase in silver sails. But there might be a curfu for night fall on the nights of the full moon. But that's all I can think of right now.

outwarddoodles · Post by **outwarddoodles** » Fri Jul 22, 2005 10:38 pm

That Werewolves are not allowed to spread their desiese in any way.

Morkulv · Post by **Morkulv** » Fri Jul 22, 2005 11:18 pm

outwarddoodles wrote:That Werewolves are not allowed to spread their desiese in any way.

outwarddoodles · Post by **outwarddoodles** » Fri Jul 22, 2005 11:45 pm

Morkulv wrote:
outwarddoodles wrote:That Werewolves are not allowed to spread their desiese in any way.

I know, I mispell that all the time.

Vuldari · Post by **Vuldari** » Sat Jul 23, 2005 1:12 am

I'd imagine that if the existance of contagious werewolves became public knowlage, laws would be enforced that require all Werwolves to be REGISTERED and that thier location and "late night activities" would have to be properly recorded and accounted for.

In other words, being a werewolf and not telling anyone would be a punishable crime.

Ditto with moving without notifying the proper officials, hunting "the old fashioned way" without authorization, or intentionally making someone else a werewolf without first going thruough the proper channels to make it legal.

In that instance, likely both parties, (The Lycanthrope and the Potential), would be required to submit to physical examinations to determine whether it would be safe or not. (Is the person strong enough to survive the first shift? Does the "donor" werewolf have any OTHER diseases that he/she might knowingly or unknowingly pass on the the second party? ...HIV, etc...)

Basically, the laws would make being a werewolf suck, in that you would be treated like a diseased criminal...even though you are neither.

Figarou · Post by **Figarou** » Sat Jul 23, 2005 2:59 am

Vuldari wrote:I'd imagine that if the existance of contagious werewolves became public knowlage, laws would be enforced that require all Werwolves to be REGISTERED and that thier location and "late night activities" would have to be properly recorded and accounted for.

REGISTERED? Next they will need a werewolf licence. And a permit to howl.

and pay werewolf taxes. And need werewolf insurance.

Fenrir · Post by **Fenrir** » Sat Jul 23, 2005 8:48 am

And need werewolf insurance.

They actually have that in some place in England

Seriously!

Lupin · Post by **Lupin** » Sat Jul 23, 2005 8:52 am

Fenrir wrote:
And need werewolf insurance.
They actually have that in some place in England

Seriously!

Someone needs to find a copy of a werewolf insurance policy. I'd like to see that.

Figarou · Post by **Figarou** » Sat Jul 23, 2005 8:54 am

Fenrir wrote:
And need werewolf insurance.
They actually have that in some place in England

Seriously!

Say what?

Your pulling my tail.

Shadow Wulf · Post by **Shadow Wulf** » Sat Jul 23, 2005 8:57 am

no werewolf is authorized to bare thier teeth to the public.

Figarou · Post by **Figarou** » Sat Jul 23, 2005 9:08 am

Shadow Wulf wrote:no werewolf is authorized to bare thier teeth to the public.

no werewolves are aloud to walk the streets during a full moon.

top that.

Lupin · Post by **Lupin** » Sat Jul 23, 2005 9:11 am

Figarou wrote:no werewolves are aloud to walk the streets during a full moon.

top that.

Oh don't tell me they have to climb up walls.

Shadow Wulf · Post by **Shadow Wulf** » Sat Jul 23, 2005 9:25 am

theres is a full moon, 6 pm cerfew tonight, all lycan violaters will be shot on sight.

Scott Gardener · Post by **Scott Gardener** » Sat Jul 23, 2005 10:50 am

Laws vary by country, but I suspect there would be a lot of similarities from one to the next. Since I live in the U.S., here are my extrapolations about American laws, since they're most directly familiar to me.

Lycanthropy would be a reportable condition to the Health Department, much like tuberculosis or most sexually transmitted diseases.

There would be a push to keep a registery of known lycanthropes, for security reasons, but civil liberties groups, as well as the werewolves themselves, would work to oppose such measures. If it were not legalized, such a database might still exist illegally, much like some of the suspected and rumored taping of phone conversations or government search bots that seek out key words like "bomb" or "Presidential assassination." (Hello, unofficial U.S. govt. search program. I guess you just noticed that.)

Some states here would pass laws against giving lycanthropy even to willing recipients. Most or all states would forbid giving it to people under 18.

Eventually, as civil rights movements progressed, laws that limited werewolves in terms of daily life or fundamental rights would get overturned. Perhaps the Supreme Court would at some point decide that lycanthropes were implied as a "race" in the anti-discrimination Ammendments to the Constitution.

After about two generations, people would relax their paranoia about monster movies or the "Beast of Revelations," and more people would start seeing lycanthropy as an enhancement rather than a disease. By around 2040, the laws against spreading it would get overturned, except for the under 18 rule, which I suspect would be pretty standard in most developed countries, give or take a few years of age. (American law likes 18 for some reason, though we don't allow alcohol until age 21.)

Though not a law so much as a set of regulations within various organizations, lycanthropes might be banned from regular sporting events but allowed into their own leagues, to prevent the unfair advantages illustrated in Teen Wolf.

Werewolves would over time cause changes in other laws. I can easily see anti-lycanthropists filing charges against werewolves, such as hunting without a license or public nudity. Such laws in turn would over time get revised; public nudity laws might allow for fur, or might eventually get thrown out altogether as social conventions change. (Consider that people in modern clothes would have been arrested in Victorian age England--women wearing pants instead of dresses? Scandalous!) In this sense, werewolves could simply help push existing social trends through a few generations earlier.

One might be able to get a tooth-and-claw hunting license. (Imagine "catfish noodling" being a legal precedent....) Indeed, as the number of werewolves grew, the surplus of hunters could endanger popular prey such as deer, or even endanger real wolves, who have to compete with their human part-timers.

Darum · Post by **Darum** » Sat Jul 23, 2005 11:43 am

why can't there be any countries that would be friendly to werewolves?

so mean.....

Scott Gardener · Post by **Scott Gardener** » Sat Jul 23, 2005 11:55 am

The European Union seems to be on the forefront of progressive thinking. The Scandinavian countries in particular seem to be the leaders--Norway, Denmark, Sweden, Holland, and the Netherlands, the same wonderful places that gave us Lego, Ikea, and cool accents. My hunch is that Sweden would be one of the first places to open up to lycanthropes. They might never pass a ban on giving it to willing recipients. Australia strikes me as likely to be pretty open as well--and eager to avoid any reminders about where Howling III was set.

On the other end of the spectrum, places in the Middle East like Saudi Arabia, Syria, and the likes would probably try to kill werewolves on sight. Their governments probably wouldn't officially sanction a "silver bullet" policy, but they'd look the other way while werewolves were slaughtered. Same with the Eastern portions of Africa.

WereDog · Post by **WereDog** » Sat Jul 23, 2005 1:41 pm

Scott Gardener wrote:The European Union seems to be on the forefront of progressive thinking. The Scandinavian countries in particular seem to be the leaders--Norway, Denmark, Sweden, Holland, and the Netherlands, the same wonderful places that gave us Lego, Ikea, and cool accents. My hunch is that Sweden would be one of the first places to open up to lycanthropes. They might never pass a ban on giving it to willing recipients. Australia strikes me as likely to be pretty open as well--and eager to avoid any reminders about where Howling III was set.

On the other end of the spectrum, places in the Middle East like Saudi Arabia, Syria, and the likes would probably try to kill werewolves on sight. Their governments probably wouldn't officially sanction a "silver bullet" policy, but they'd look the other way while werewolves were slaughtered. Same with the Eastern portions of Africa.

that seems very country steriotypical.
what says that lycans wouldnt be more wellcome in irak then america?

sweden rules!

Figarou · Post by **Figarou** » Sat Jul 23, 2005 3:04 pm

Scott Gardener wrote:Laws vary by country, but I suspect there would be a lot of similarities from one to the next. Since I live in the U.S., here are my extrapolations about American laws, since they're most directly familiar to me.

We have our regular laws.

then there are the odd ones.

http://www.theglassceiling.com/looking2/lo01_odd.htm

outwarddoodles · Post by **outwarddoodles** » Sat Jul 23, 2005 3:18 pm

Figarou wrote:We have our regular laws.

then there are the odd ones.

http://www.theglassceiling.com/looking2/lo01_odd.htm

I find some of these reasonable, and some probaly happened through some strange accident that people demanded a law apon. Yet some of them are quite asinine.

In Miami, it's illegal for men to be seen publicly in any kind of strapless gown.

Oh really now.

The ones that seem to be the most asinine, are ones directed towards gender, somehow they seem worse for woman.

In Michigan, a woman isn't allowed to cut her own hair without her husband's permission.
In Oxford, Ohio, it's illegal for a woman to strip off her clothing while standing in front of a man's picture.
In Carrizozo, N.M., it's forbidden for a female to appear unshaven in public (includes legs and face).
In Los Angeles, a man is legally entitled to beat his wife with a leather belt or strap, but the belt can't be wider than 2 inches, unless he has his wife's consent to beat her with a wider strap.
In Kentucky, "No female shall appear in a bathing suit on any highway within this state unless she be escorted by at least two officers or unless she be armed with a club"

I can cut my hair all I want, strip my clothing in frount of any picture I please, not shave my legs (or face?!?!), no mans going to beat me if he doesn't want a really big a** kicking. Come on!

In California, animals are banned from mating publicly within 1,500 feet of a tavern, school, or place of worship.

This I can find understandable. I can imagine someone was offended whether it be school or church and demanded this law be made.

Lupin · Post by **Lupin** » Sat Jul 23, 2005 3:22 pm

outwarddoodles wrote:
In California, animals are banned from mating publicly within 1,500 feet of a tavern, school, or place of worship.
This I can find understandable. I can imagine someone was offended whether it be school or church and demanded this law be made.

But it's poinltess since most non-human animals can't read

Figarou · Post by **Figarou** » Sat Jul 23, 2005 3:23 pm

outwarddoodles wrote:
The ones that seem to be the most asinine, are ones directed towards gender, somehow they seem worse for woman.

In Michigan, a woman isn't allowed to cut her own hair without her husband's permission.
In Oxford, Ohio, it's illegal for a woman to strip off her clothing while standing in front of a man's picture.
In Carrizozo, N.M., it's forbidden for a female to appear unshaven in public (includes legs and face).
In Los Angeles, a man is legally entitled to beat his wife with a leather belt or strap, but the belt can't be wider than 2 inches, unless he has his wife's consent to beat her with a wider strap.
In Kentucky, "No female shall appear in a bathing suit on any highway within this state unless she be escorted by at least two officers or unless she be armed with a club"
I can cut my hair all I want, strip my clothing in frount of any picture I please, not shave my legs (or face?!?!), no mans going to beat me if he doesn't want a really big a** kicking. Come on!

There is no law for duckie tossing at women!! Or in this case, llamas!!
Woo hoo!!

Figarou · Post by **Figarou** » Sat Jul 23, 2005 3:26 pm

Lupin wrote:
outwarddoodles wrote:
In California, animals are banned from mating publicly within 1,500 feet of a tavern, school, or place of worship.
This I can find understandable. I can imagine someone was offended whether it be school or church and demanded this law be made.
But it's poinltess since most non-human animals can't read??

Heh, I can see a human cop trying to arrest the party in question.

human cop- "You have the right to remain silent." Anything you say will be used agaisnt you in a court of law"

Dog-

Lupin · Post by **Lupin** » Sat Jul 23, 2005 3:32 pm

Figarou wrote:Heh, I can see a human cop trying to arrest the party in question.

human cop- "You have the right to remain silent." Anything you say will be used agaisnt you in a court of law"

Dog-

I just don't understand why they enact unenforcable laws like that.

Figarou · Post by **Figarou** » Sat Jul 23, 2005 3:37 pm

Lupin wrote:
Figarou wrote:Heh, I can see a human cop trying to arrest the party in question.

human cop- "You have the right to remain silent." Anything you say will be used agaisnt you in a court of law"

Dog-
I just don't understand why they enact unenforcable laws like that.

I think its a pet law.