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Shadow Wulf · Post by **Shadow Wulf** » Mon Jul 25, 2005 10:31 am

Lupin wrote:I don't see why that would happen. Werewolves are still half human.

, yes but thier half wolf. it goes like this, if your not 100% human.....then your not human at all.

Lupin · Post by **Lupin** » Mon Jul 25, 2005 10:34 am

Shadow Wulf wrote:
Lupin wrote:I don't see why that would happen. Werewolves are still half human.
, yes but thier half wolf. it goes like this, if your not 100% human.....then your not human at all.

I don't see it like that. If lycanthropy is some sort of pathogen, then you're human with a condition. Like chicken pox.

Shadow Wulf · Post by **Shadow Wulf** » Mon Jul 25, 2005 10:41 am

Lupin wrote:
Shadow Wulf wrote:
Lupin wrote:I don't see why that would happen. Werewolves are still half human.
, yes but thier half wolf. it goes like this, if your not 100% human.....then your not human at all.
I don't see it like that. If lycanthropy is some sort of pathogen, then you're human with a condition. Like chicken pox.

but chicken pox is a disease that everyone gets and recovers from, a werewolf is a different race, but still related to humans like monkeys.

Lupin · Post by **Lupin** » Mon Jul 25, 2005 10:43 am

Shadow Wulf wrote:but chicken pox is a disease that everyone gets and recovers from, a werewolf is a different race, but still related to humans like monkeys.

Actually we don't really recover. The virus that causes chicken pox can resurface later in life to cause shingles.

Scott Gardener · Post by **Scott Gardener** » Mon Jul 25, 2005 10:56 am

The general consensus in my world is that werewolves are considered humans with a symbiot, not a new species. You don't change species after you're born. (Of course, that gets thrown way out later in my storyline, which happens to go by the title "Genetic Wars.")

Shadow Wulf · Post by **Shadow Wulf** » Mon Jul 25, 2005 11:02 am

Scott Gardener wrote:The general consensus in my world is that werewolves are considered humans with a symbiot, not a new species. You don't change species after you're born. (Of course, that gets thrown way out later in my storyline, which happens to go by the title "Genetic Wars.")

thats only to oppinnions of certain people and some scientist, while other think they are a new race of humans, or something.

Lupin · Post by **Lupin** » Mon Jul 25, 2005 11:13 am

Shadow Wulf wrote:thats only to oppinnions of certain people and some scientist, while other think they are a new race of humans, or something.

Well the easiest way to look at this is: If a human and a werewolf can "get busy"[1] and produce viable offspring, then they are the same species.

[size=0][1] Sorry, as I was typing this I noticed my Incredibles DVD sitting across the room. Wow, size 0 font is small.[/size]

Shadow Wulf · Post by **Shadow Wulf** » Mon Jul 25, 2005 11:16 am

Lupin wrote:
Shadow Wulf wrote:thats only to oppinnions of certain people and some scientist, while other think they are a new race of humans, or something.
Well the easiest way to look at this is: If a human and a werewolf can "get busy"[1] and produce viable offspring, then they are the same species.

[size=0][1] Sorry, as I was typing this I noticed my Incredibles DVD sitting across the room. Wow, size 0 font is small.[/size]

So in other words werewolf are exactly like humans but with a fluke of more advanced evolution than some others, like some people can bend spoons with thier mind while most cant. I get it now.

Scott Gardener · Post by **Scott Gardener** » Mon Jul 25, 2005 11:44 am

Shadow Wulf:

thats only to oppinnions of certain people and some scientist, while other think they are a new race of humans, or something.

You are quite right, that even if scientists come to a consensus, they're not going to convince everyone else to agree with them.

There will be werewolf radicals, who believe they're the next step of evolution, and that ordinary humans are inferior. There will be humans who are equally convinced that it's de-evolution, "back to an animal"--since there's this notion that we're not animals anymore. (No one ever denied being a vertebrate, oddly enough, and we seem OK with being mammals. But not animals, and not primates. Go figure.)

Terastas · Post by **Terastas** » Mon Jul 25, 2005 12:10 pm

Shadow Wulf wrote:I just thought of something.... If werewolfs were allowed to be accepted in public and all, what if Our human race were to later become on the endagered species list, you know sense Lycanthropy can be transfurred sexually, it can spread the way other sexually transmitted diesease, and already hundreds of millions of people have STD. So if werewolfs were to become too careless, it can put our race into a state of emergency.

*shrugs* It's possible, and I'm certain someone would bring that up, but personally, I think it would more or less just be another right-wing scare tactic used to enforce their policy (sort of like that "if the whole world turned gay" nonsense). Simply put, why would all of humanity allow themselves to become infected with lycanthropy, and why would werewolves want to in the first place?

As has been suggested, infecting an unwilling recipient would be classified along the same lines as rape, only since the consequences are more permanent, the punishment would be more severe. That's ultimately what would keep werewolves from infecting all of humanity: the rest of humanity's unwillingness to be infected.

Plus, lycanthropy is a lot easier to track and monitor than most STDs. AIDS has spread as rapidly as it has because it can take years before it can be confirmed, and even then only the symptoms can be recognized instead of the virus itself. It spreads as much as it does because most of the people that transmit it don't know they have it.

Lycanthropy, on the other hand, can be properly diagnosed in a maximum of 28 days, and the symptoms are unmistakable.

outwarddoodles · Post by **outwarddoodles** » Fri Jul 29, 2005 8:56 pm

As Scott said I'd expect the thing to go two ways; allow the spreading of lycanthropy is ban it from happening at all.

The discovering of Lcanthropy can change the way the world is currently alot. Our Army will be different, soceity will be set up a different way, different laws, having to reconize different forms, and the fact that such a radical idea is actually posible. The best way to keep the world as it is is to get down and stop the spreading with a close watch on lycanthropes, then getting up other country's asses to make sure their army is not made of a bunch of dog soldiers themselves.

Shadow Wulf · Post by **Shadow Wulf** » Fri Jul 29, 2005 10:25 pm

it will be extremely hard to keep a close eye on werewolves, especially when theres whole lot of them. our ogvernment can barely keep a close eye on criminals as it is. the best way to keep an eye on them is to plant them with tracking devices, and that will go up agients thier free will to live normaly.

Fenrir · Post by **Fenrir** » Fri Jul 29, 2005 10:34 pm

The government would only get about ten percent of werewolves because most would live in the rural areas and keep to themselves the government would only check moderatl high populated cities for werewolves it would be more cost effective. They most likely would figure one werewolf would go down and he'd take and enemy down with him and then another and another

outwarddoodles · Post by **outwarddoodles** » Fri Jul 29, 2005 11:23 pm

If theres probaly so many werewolves, people are going to know about them. You never know, the government is big and could do alot. Then it depends apon the country, some people may be offended here in America while in a country with a ruler much like a dictator, then they can do as they please.

Most likely they will keep in a record and do a quick DNA or some type of testing, then place in their files if that person is a werewolf. How they are going to keep track of them I don't know.

Shadow Wulf · Post by **Shadow Wulf** » Fri Jul 29, 2005 11:27 pm

outwarddoodles wrote:If theres probaly so many werewolves, people are going to know about them. You never know, the government is big and could do alot. Then it depends apon the country, some people may be offended here in America while in a country with a ruler much like a dictator, then they can do as they please.

Most likely they will keep in a record and do a quick DNA or some type of testing, then place in their files if that person is a werewolf. How they are going to keep track of them I don't know.

well the american president is shure doesnt have the intelegents to do anything, just a rich boy who bribed people and cheated on election to win, i voted for al gore.

outwarddoodles · Post by **outwarddoodles** » Fri Jul 29, 2005 11:32 pm

Shadow Wulf wrote: well the american president is shure doesnt have the intelegents to do anything, just a rich boy who bribed people and cheated on election to win, i voted for al gore.

Since when was this a debate about our current president? I'm not to found of Bush etheir, but do you have any reasons behind your hatred of him? And any real proof he cheated, thats just what the steriotypical democrat seems to say, I lean towards being a demoncrat but I don't say any crap like that.

Lupin · Post by **Lupin** » Fri Jul 29, 2005 11:34 pm

Shadow Wulf wrote: well the american president is shure doesnt have the intelegents to do anything, just a rich boy who bribed people and cheated on election to win, i voted for al gore.

There has been an election since then.

IIRC, he still got the popular vote after all of the recounts.

Shadow Wulf · Post by **Shadow Wulf** » Fri Jul 29, 2005 11:38 pm

outwarddoodles wrote:
Shadow Wulf wrote: well the american president is shure doesnt have the intelegents to do anything, just a rich boy who bribed people and cheated on election to win, i voted for al gore.
Since when was this a debate about our current president? I'm not to found of Bush etheir, but do you have any reasons behind your hatred of him? And any real proof he cheated, thats just what the steriotypical democrat seems to say, I lean towards being a demoncrat but I don't say any crap like that.

its been allover the talkshow radio that bush had hes brother change some of the votes during the election at the time, atleast it was here in florida. thats why i mentioned it. and hes not really bright, but luckily he doenst decide what to do, the congreess men does, but i dont wont to go off topic, i do that too much.

some deeply religous people would think werewolfs could be a threat in thier neiborhoods, and they might not take it lightly. they could form a kind of a werewolf hatred version of KKK, that would be something......

Shadow Wulf · Post by **Shadow Wulf** » Fri Jul 29, 2005 11:40 pm

Lupin wrote:
Shadow Wulf wrote: well the american president is shure doesnt have the intelegents to do anything, just a rich boy who bribed people and cheated on election to win, i voted for al gore.

There has been an election since then.

IIRC, he still got the popular vote after all of the recounts.

yeah i know, i wondered why people picked him agien, this country works in mesterouse ways.....

Lupin · Post by **Lupin** » Fri Jul 29, 2005 11:41 pm

I propose we stop this current line of discussion now. Debating politics on the internet is fraught with peril, and usually usless.

Figarou · Post by **Figarou** » Sat Jul 30, 2005 6:02 am

Lupin wrote:I propose we stop this current line of discussion now. Debating politics on the internet is fraught with peril, and usually usless.

and it doesn't make any sence

Shadow Wulf · Post by **Shadow Wulf** » Sat Jul 30, 2005 10:20 am

Figarou wrote:
Lupin wrote:I propose we stop this current line of discussion now. Debating politics on the internet is fraught with peril, and usually usless.
and it doesn't make any sence

hey fig your here past 7.

i told you so lupin.lol im j/k

Lupin · Post by **Lupin** » Sat Jul 30, 2005 10:26 am

Figarou wrote:and it doesn't make any sence

Nope. There are two things I don't discuss on the internet: Politics and Religion. You end up going round and round in circles, and at the end you don't get anywhere.

Shadow Wulf · Post by **Shadow Wulf** » Sat Jul 30, 2005 10:32 am

thats the same thing with me argueing aswell, so if i got to far in terms of argueing.....someone please stop me.

Wolfhanyou · Post by **Wolfhanyou** » Sat Jul 30, 2005 1:10 pm

Shadow Wulf wrote:thats the same thing with me argueing aswell, so if i got to far in terms of argueing.....someone please stop me.

*puts a muzzle on Shadow Wulf* There ya go!

I think there's also the problem of humans ganging up to beat on a werewolf when they're off gaurd and alone and... probably when it's not on a full moon. So do you guys think that there's also the possibility of having a Werewolf Protection Program like they have for witnesses to crimes?