The worst films in filmdom

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Scott Gardener wrote:Some of the movies that have been given awards like the Golden Turkey or Rasberry are actually pretty fun.

Catwoman was enjoyable, and not just to see Hale Barry slinking around in an overly cute outfit. She showed up to receive her Raz award in person, and gave a great speech.

And, Ed Wood's Plan 9 From Outer Space, the Golden Turkey Lifetime Achievement for "Worst Movie Ever Made," is actually very fun to watch. It's well paced and has many memorable moments. See for yourself; download the movie! (It's public domain.)

http://www.archive.org/details/Plan9FromOuterSpace
Heh. Yep. Sometimes a movie can be so bad, you can't help but love it. Mars Attacks, for example.
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I wasn't, but it doesn't surprise me, nor do I think that means one is in the style of the other. The thing about Ace Ventura is that he's the one and only character that does anything stupid, and more often than not his antics are aimed at making fun of all the ho-hums around him as opposed to pure random stupidity.

K-P on the other hand... Well, I haven't seen it, but he's weilding squirrel nunchucks attatched at the *ahem* and fighting a cow on the front cover. I'm guessing the entire world is off the wack in that movie.
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Terastas wrote:K-P on the other hand... Well, I haven't seen it, but he's weilding squirrel nunchucks attatched at the *ahem* and fighting a cow on the front cover. I'm guessing the entire world is off the wack in that movie.
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It is so obvious that you guys have never seen a truly bad movie :wink: Give a try to 'Dunyayi Kurtaran Adam' (The Man Who Saves The World-roughly).
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Reiluna wrote:Be mauled by Wookies, you will. *feeds WereDog to Chewbacca*

I think I found a movie bad enough to be called one of the world's worst. Queen Of The Damned. I was so bored with it and it was just...bad.
I didn't even make through 15 minutes of that movie. I don't know how much of it actually tied in with the book it was ahem, "based" on, but a hell of a lot it was based on the book The Vampire Lestat. That, and the fact Lestat didn't even look the way he was supposed to, angered me. I couldn't take it anymore and left before my head exploded or something. Another bad movie I watched and never was Universal Soldier. It was off somehow and didn't make a lot of sense, so we took it out. I wasn't really fond of The Ring, The Ring 2, or The Grudge either. And House and Haunted Hill!! I soo despise that movie! It was lame with all the ghosts and stuff scaring people. One ghost isn't enough, hmmmm, let's make it 10! :x I think that's about all the really bad I've seen and hated.
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Reiluna wrote:The Ring, The Ring 2, or The Grudge either.
I could probably make a case in defense for The Ring, but while I certainly wouldn't consider it a bad horror movie, it wasn't good enough either that I feel up to defending it. :P

I haven't seen The Ring 2, but it's not hard to point out what was wrong with The Grudge. The concept itself was simple enough: a man and his family die in such a way that his hatred lingers about the household after his death in the representative embodiment of his murdered wife and son. That might have been a nice plotline five or six years ago, but it's not too far off from the concept of the movie The Eye in which ghosts are described as (roughly) the remaining energy signatures left by people that were killed without enough warning to be consciously aware of death; that in turn as well was introduced to us before in The Sixth Sense where ghosts were described, simply put, as people that didn't know they were dead. You could also make an argument that The Grudge borrows from the concept presented in The Ring, only it's a husband's anger that's lingering instead of a little girl's desire to be listened to, and clinging to a house instead of a video tape. In other words, the concept of The Grudge is stale.

That left the movie to be supported by it's plotline, which, in comparrison to it's above-mentioned predecessors, was more in line with traditional 80s format than should be accepted. The protagonist had the detective to give her all the answers about the supernatural, and for the rest of her inquiries, she had Google (which was also used in The Ring, but while the protagonist in that movie had to do a lot of digging before she even knew what to look for, the prtagonist in The Grudge just went straight to the Internet). Meanwhile, while she's picking her nose waiting for someone to spoonfeed her the answers, the haunt of the house is apparently killing people at random, including two people that hadn't even been near the house. Susan made a phone call to the place and the specter showed up right there at her workplace to make her disappear, but the protagonist that was in the house looking right at it when it came for the old woman gets to stick around and have her head messed with.

And even though the detective knew everything about that house and it's history, including that the haunt sometimes manifested itself in the form of the little boy (the protagonist tells him the kid's name after she saw him on the balcony), he still let the kid lure him in and kill him. If anyone was supposed to have defied the 80s format, it was him.

The concept was stale and the plot was stale. It's like every other freakin' ghost movie we've seen in the last five years.

Has anyone seen Ju-On (I think that's the name), the film The Grudge was based on?
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Kung Pow was an awesome, funny movie, IMO. Unfortunately, some people's senses of humor just can't appreciate it for the comedic gold it is.

All the Matrix movies were amazing, I believe. The second and third actually had a lot of deeper stuff going on, they were far more than special effects. Some people just can't see beyond the surface.



Another Movie I'd like to add: Attack of the Killer Tomatoes. It accomplishes the feat of being able to be completely awful and fantastic at the same time. But I suppose it still kinda belongs here, even though I love it.
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Worst Movie Ive Seen? Well that must be that porn movie with big breasted Waitress, :o eum did i say porn movie i meant,Harry Potter and the philosper stone,yeah that movie sucked
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DarkWolf wrote:Worst Movie Ive Seen? Well that must be that porn movie with big breasted Waitress, :o eum did i say porn movie i meant,Harry Potter and the philosper stone,yeah that movie sucked
True the first wasn't that good. Although the next two were quite awesome!
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DarkWolf wrote:Worst Movie Ive Seen? Well that must be that porn movie with big breasted Waitress, :o eum did i say porn movie i meant,Harry Potter and the philosper stone,yeah that movie sucked
The problem with the first Harry Potter might have been that it was supposed to be the book/movie that introduces us to the magical world, thus for those of us that actually know Harry Potter is also a series of books, it's a load of old hat to us. The other two, on the other hand, jump straight to the cool magical stuff.

My brother, on the other hand, hasn't even touched a book in over ten years. The first Harry Potter movie was therefore his favorite because in the other two, the presumption is that you're already familiar with the HP world.

If nobody's mentioned it already, I'd like to nominate Waking Life.
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Waking Life is one big, fun, deep, acid trip :D
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I guess the Ring and those ones aren't the worst films, but I didn't really like them. I like your take on The Grudge though, Terastas, how it's like the Ring. Unversal Soldier is so on this list though! What about Sideways? Has anyone seen that? Once again, probably not the worst film ever made but.... The one guy in it is like a combination of these two guys I know, which was kinda scary :lol:
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I read somewhere that the movie that was selected for worst movie of all time was called "Manos: The Hands of Fate". (Roughly translated, means Hands: The Hands of Fate). Anybody ever watch this one? I want to get a copy.
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Hands: The Hands of Fate? That's a sad title! But if you can't judge a book by it's cover then you can't judge a movie by it's title :lol:
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come on, the first universal Soldier movie wasnt even a b-movie. it was great.
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Silverclaw wrote:Waking Life is one big, fun, deep, acid trip :D
It could have been an interesting movie taking into account it's final point (I'll save you the trouble and post a spoiler: the kid is dead and the afterlife is a permanent dream state), but it took so freakin' long and boring an approach that by the end of the movie, I just didn't give a damn anymore.

In all seriousness, how many of us dream about nothing but us sitting down in front of somebody while they ramble on about psychology and spiritualism?
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lol, maybe thats what the afterlife is all about :wink:
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I saw Mystery Science Theater do Manos. It was one of the older Joel episodes. The movie was so bad that Dr. Clayton Forrester actually apologized mid-way through to Joel for being so cruel as to subject him and the gang to the thing.

I've only seen it once, and I only sort-of remember it. I do remember that it was pretty horrific.
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Scott Gardener wrote:I saw Mystery Science Theater do Manos. It was one of the older Joel episodes. The movie was so bad that Dr. Clayton Forrester actually apologized mid-way through to Joel for being so cruel as to subject him and the gang to the thing.

I've only seen it once, and I only sort-of remember it. I do remember that it was pretty horrific.
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Excelsia wrote:I read somewhere that the movie that was selected for worst movie of all time was called "Manos: The Hands of Fate". (Roughly translated, means Hands: The Hands of Fate). Anybody ever watch this one? I want to get a copy.
IMDB.com confirms this; the worst movie ever made. According to said website, the movie was so horrible that, because the actors had all been promised to be percentages of the film's income (and being the worst movie in history, there wren't any), only two actors actually recieved any form of payment, one of which was the doberman stunt dog.
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Terastas wrote:only two actors actually recieved any form of payment, one of which was the doberman stunt dog.
LOL, what'd he give him? Kibble?


Or were you trying to say that the dog was part of someone's payment? If so, heck I would've been in that movie. Free dog!
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Terastas wrote:only two actors actually recieved any form of payment, one of which was the doberman stunt dog.
LOL, what'd he give him? Kibble?
Heh. Yup. That's exactly what he was given. You can find IMDB's Manos trivia here -- it's at the bottom.

Also, does anyone find it somehow fitting that Hal Warren had prior been a fertilizer salesman?
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Disney's Jungle Book. I saw it when it first came out (I was in first grade) and loved it loved it loved it, then as an adult got it on video, watched it, and almost crawled under a rock for shame. I profusely and earnestly apologized to my parents for making them sit through it. The Chuck Jones version straight-up dusted it!

I'm sorry, but African jungle drums and Dixieland jazz on the soundtrack? This is India, for Ganesha's sake! Mowgli was virtually reduced to a plot device, he had no character at all. And they switched the characters of Bagheera and Baloo, in the book the former was a reckless heathen and the latter was a straight-laced, grumpy traditionalist. And they turned Kaa into Mowgli's enemy where in the books they're best friends and Kaa saves Mowgli's life several times. And the animation was only slightly better than Hanna-Barbaric.

And dammit — there are no orang-utans in India!! :x

While I'm on a rant — I had a hard time with Disney's Bambi. Sure, the animation was wonderful and the backgrounds were top drawer, but bucks in hard antler in spring? <i>TWICE??!?!</i> And spotted fawns in the dead of winter!?! No. I'm sorry, but no.
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vrikasatma wrote:I'm sorry, but African jungle drums and Dixieland jazz on the soundtrack? This is India, for Ganesha's sake! Mowgli was virtually reduced to a plot device, he had no character at all. And they switched the characters of Bagheera and Baloo, in the book the former was a reckless heathen and the latter was a straight-laced, grumpy traditionalist. And they turned Kaa into Mowgli's enemy where in the books they're best friends and Kaa saves Mowgli's life several times. And the animation was only slightly better than Hanna-Barbaric.
I can understand that, although not liking something for being just like the book isn't really good enough reason to fault it. The audience is American after all, so American music is easier on the ears, and lets face it, there's no way they could have sold the soundtrack with a hit single called "The Panther Necessities."

And so what if Orangutans aren't native to India. To the best of my knowledge, there are no wolves, bears or black panthers either.
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Terastas wrote:And so what if Orangutans aren't native to India. To the best of my knowledge, there are no wolves, bears or black panthers either.
Actually there are, the book's locus was somewhere around Kanha in Madhya Pradesh. Baloo (Sanskrit: Ballu) and Sona in "The Miracle of Purun Bhagat" were Asiatic black bears, which are found in Kanha and leopards are found in every state across North India, including panthers. Wolves have pretty much disappeared from there but they're in the Western Ghats, the Terai on the border of Uttar Pradesh and Nepal, and Western India. There's some furor going on over there right now because there's been reports of wolves attacking humans and the humans are pushing for a wolf eradication campaign; it's happening mostly in the northwest near Pakistan.
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waking life is a torture session. it wazs even more of one when we watched it in art class. fine arts, earlier this year. the animation was so bat, it caused me physical pain. it also make my clay scupture DIE. my god, it was the only art cass i hated. admiuttedly, at timesthe animatio nwould combine for a few seconds to make something amazingly lifelike,- but other than that- it looked likemy friends in fifth grade, who's drawing skills peak at about drawing a sock with stick legs (called socko, featured in a comic called 'the adventues of socko' aong with a potted plant, my dad's duffel bag, a shoes and random other items)made it.

hehe.. good ol' socko....

but anyway, most bad movie' ive seen were on mystery science theater 3000.

ONe thing i didbnt like about teh incredibles (which i consider a good movie) was that my brother and i got to spend the entire movie picking out things they hadd ripped off of other things (or it may have been vice-versa, but i higly doubt it) which included half-life 2, star-wars, bionicle, austin powers, and other things.
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