Ahhh, the sorted issue of gender.

NightmareHero · Post by **NightmareHero** » Wed Dec 08, 2004 2:55 pm

WolvenOne wrote:Horror and a nice werewolf story, and not necceserilly mutually exclusive goals. Though in my opinion, emphasizing werewolf sexuality and having a good werewolf story, would indeed be mutually exclusive goals.

I just don't see those two goals being able to co-exist in one movie.

That's what the genre, Romance-Suspense-Thriller is for.....

Apokryltaros · Post by **Apokryltaros** » Wed Dec 08, 2004 5:13 pm

Think-Harder wrote:
WolvenOne wrote:Horror and a nice werewolf story, and not necceserilly mutually exclusive goals. Though in my opinion, emphasizing werewolf sexuality and having a good werewolf story, would indeed be mutually exclusive goals.

I just don't see those two goals being able to co-exist in one movie.
That's what the genre, Romance-Suspense-Thriller is for.....

I once read a horror-romance-suspence-thriller, concerning a love triangle between a rancher's lovely virgin daughter, the handsome drifter, and the family herd-dog.

WolvenOne · Post by **WolvenOne** » Wed Dec 08, 2004 7:56 pm

Romance is not about sex or porn, well, not at it's core anyway. There are a few romances out there that're really just soft core porn novels.

Romance, is all about emotions, emotional attachments with other people, AKA, Love.

There's a HUGE difference between a story that focuses on love, and a story that focuses on sex. I mean, just look at one of the most famous romances of all time, Romeo and Juliet. The focus in that story is MOST DEFINITLY on the emotions everyone must deal with, not sex.

WOO HOO!

200 posts!

Winter · Post by **Winter** » Thu Dec 09, 2004 1:10 am

Horror and a nice werewolf story, and not necceserilly mutually exclusive goals. Though in my opinion, emphasizing werewolf sexuality and having a good werewolf story, would indeed be mutually exclusive goals.

I just don't see those two goals being able to co-exist in one movie.

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NightmareHero · Post by **NightmareHero** » Fri Dec 10, 2004 9:24 pm

Here's a good pic to differentiate the genders in terms of body build:

http://www.drakkolupen.com/gallery/gall ... 1032395273

NightmareHero · Post by **NightmareHero** » Fri Dec 10, 2004 9:27 pm

Winter wrote:
Horror and a nice werewolf story, and not necceserilly mutually exclusive goals. Though in my opinion, emphasizing werewolf sexuality and having a good werewolf story, would indeed be mutually exclusive goals.

I just don't see those two goals being able to co-exist in one movie.
if only it could be done...

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What Mafia · Post by **What Mafia** » Mon Jan 31, 2005 1:13 pm

I think that Goldie is on the right track. Of course I like to see snarly wolves as much as the next guy. *laughs*

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WolfVanZandt · Post by **WolfVanZandt** » Tue Feb 01, 2005 8:31 pm

BTW, as to avoiding anatomically correct arts, there have been a few major motion pictures (one quite famly oriented) related to Werewolves that did not do it and didn't do it pretty well.

Van Helsing
Harry and the Hendersons
Night Breed (the Berserkers were almost embarrassingly anatomically correct although they tended to "shoot around" the sensitive parts.)

Kzinistzerg · Post by **Kzinistzerg** » Fri Feb 04, 2005 7:49 pm

I'd say they'd have human mating patterns (none). There should be a gender-specific differences, but no actual reproductive organs.

hwango · Post by **hwango** » Sat Feb 05, 2005 5:40 am

Unless werewolves reproduce sexually in human/wolf hybrid form, their hybrid forms don't need sexual attributes. Nature has the one-way metamorphosis of caterpillars into butterflies in which caterpillars have no reproductive organs because they are not used in that shape. If in this movie the werewolves reproduce either by "infecting" others, breeding as humans with humans, or with wolves as wolves, then the hybrid form has no use for reproductive organs or milk production for feeding young. With such a drastic change in shape from human to hybrid, I see no reason why sexual attributes couldn't be diminished in prominence to the point that they wouldn't be noticeable at all on screen.

If the werewolves in this movie DO need reproductive capabilities in hybrid form, then I would still prefer they weren't given a great deal of focus. For breasts on females, I would say they would be slightly less noticeable than in humans due to presence of the extra muscle. As to their number, it would depend on how many young are typically born to a female. Unless werewolves give birth to litters of pups, 6 breasts would be unnecessary. Personally, I'd really rather not see 3 sets of prominent breasts on the females.

For distinction between genders, I like the sketch put up by Goldenwolf (the serious one). I'm not sure that the difference in size needs to be so dramatic, but the differences in body shape are pretty much exactly what I vote for.

Feral · Post by **Feral** » Thu Feb 24, 2005 5:33 am

If you look at pictures of wolves, it's very hard to tell males from females, especially since they're usually pictured in their long winter coats. If the werewolves take on a fully wolf form, it's reasonable to suggest that you might never see any anatomical indication of their gender, aside from the size difference if they're standing right next to each other. If the wolf form is some intermediate between human and wolf, however, I'd expect some differences since humans are pretty dang sexually dimorphic. A lighter, more agile build for females and a heavier, more powerful frame for males, maybe. And as for reproductive parts, i don't think it's that big of a deal. Female's parts are easy enough to cover with fur, and though the sheath should be present for males, there's a lot of fur there too, and you'd avoid closeups. Also, a helpful anatomical fact, if you stick with wolf anatomy for this part, is that the male's testicles only descend for a week or two out of the year during the brief mating period, so there's a couple of bits you don't have to worry about offending anyone with

Kzinistzerg · Post by **Kzinistzerg** » Thu Feb 24, 2005 2:42 pm

^^Several good points. besudes, a wolf's mammary glands (most animals, even) only show when they are in use or will be in use shortly.we yumans have a very unique biological system for that entire area.

Silverclaw · Post by **Silverclaw** » Thu Feb 24, 2005 10:10 pm

If in pure wolf form, they would look just like reguler wolves(duh). Nobody is offended by naked furry animals. And if they were, I dont know why they would come to see Devoured in the first place

In Gestalt form (half wolf) they should have enough fur cover to be decent. Smaller breasts(only one set) on females; no nipplege showing. For the males, their would proabbly be a bulge their; seeing asexual werewolves would be really odd. They would most likely need longer fur down their if their bits were more human. It may be easier to hide wolf like bits. I dont care really which is used either way.

A human would most likely be wearing clothing most of the time

Set · Post by **Set** » Fri Feb 25, 2005 2:23 pm

Silverclaw wrote:A human would most likely be wearing clothing most of the time

Not if the human was a nudist.

Mitternacht · Post by **Mitternacht** » Fri Feb 25, 2005 2:52 pm

Yeha I know, I commited a major Forum sin by skimming and goign to the end of the post to drom in my 2 cents on this one. With A good design , in the males you could hint to form without going overboard or pushing teh Rateings envleope, ans as far as Breasts goes in teh females.....only Primates have 24/7 breasts. Canine femalse only have noticable breasts , tits, when they are nurseing a litter.

-MItty

Rementh · Post by **Rementh** » Sun Apr 24, 2005 6:29 pm

ShadowFang wrote:Well, I knew this topic would come up eventually. My feelings are overall on par with everyone else. The males should be built like a male and have extra fur down by his loins to cover the sheath. Also, in my drawings, I like to give my male werewolves a large fur mane around their neck that goes down their back like long flowing hair. Gives the werewolf sex appear and thus, becomes more likable. (remember the van helsing werewolf)

For females, they should have two breasts like human females do. However, the breasts will be covered in a thin layer of fur just enough not to see the nipples. Female werewolves also have other small teats below the two main ones. However, since they are covered in fur (depends on how much fur is on the belly), they are almost never seen.

I'll whip up some quick 5 minute sketches later on tonight if I have time to illustrate what I mean by this.

again with the 'how many cubs' thing, depending on how many cubs werewolves have on average would have an effect on breasts of a female an so on

Figarou · Post by **Figarou** » Sun Apr 24, 2005 6:33 pm

Rementh wrote: again with the 'how many cubs' thing, depending on how many cubs werewolves have on average would have an effect on breasts of a female an so on

Well, what do you know. The discussion of boobies as risen again!!

Care for some blueberry pie, Rementh?

Mmmmmm...pie!!

silverpaw · Post by **silverpaw** » Sun Apr 24, 2005 8:06 pm

hye i love pie hand it over...or i will start drooling on you *drools and walks towards figarou*

Figarou · Post by **Figarou** » Sun Apr 24, 2005 8:09 pm

silverpaw wrote:hye i love pie hand it over...or i will start drooling on you *drools and walks towards figarou*

*Places pie on spring, pushes it down, then moves out of the way*

*silverpaw walks up to pie*

SPLAT!!! Right in the face!!!

silverpaw · Post by **silverpaw** » Sun Apr 24, 2005 8:12 pm

*Licks face

mmmm bluberry walks towards figarou still drooling but spring fling me away* Into another topic

outwarddoodles · Post by **outwarddoodles** » Tue Apr 26, 2005 2:55 pm

Heh, Hadn't seen this topic. I guess I see what people have settled on but please heed this:

Dont go be a sexist. I'll personally come over to show you how tough we girls are. I can imagine being males do have testosterones and naturaly will be more muscled I don't want them overly better and much bigger. Meaning both werewolves should be equally capable, then after that it comes to the individuals health.

Now that I'm done, bring on the Pi! 3.141592653589793238462643383279502884197169399375105820974944592307816406286208

If thats right, thats what I can currently remember. (Is very very bored.)

silverpaw · Post by **silverpaw** » Wed Apr 27, 2005 2:45 am

*stumbles back in topic and yelps* AHHH MATHS STUFF *runs back to spring* launch dammit luanch* gets shot off again*

outwarddoodles · Post by **outwarddoodles** » Sat Apr 30, 2005 10:17 am

Now that I scared everyone away.... *eats pie*

silverpaw · Post by **silverpaw** » Mon May 02, 2005 2:24 am

*sprints back at the scent of pie, drools and steals pie...shares pie* mmmm

Kzinistzerg · Post by **Kzinistzerg** » Mon May 02, 2005 6:49 pm

*steals pie*