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I see no reason to discard a tool just because it's not perfect. It actually does a much better job now than it ever used to.

*shrug*

-- Vilkacis

Figarou wrote:

Vilkacis wrote:

Figarou wrote:If I placed "zwei und zwanzig" in babelfish. I'll get 2 and twenty.

The proper way to say it in english is twenty-two.

But it's still understandable, and it's better than nothing if you know little about the language.

-- Vilkacis

true. But not all words are translated.

And sometimes a completly different word pops up.


I don't mind seeing the differnet languages on this board. Its Babelfish I don't like.

How about using WorldLingo? I find that site better than Babelfish, though it does sometimes have the same problems.

Wolfhanyou wrote:
How about using WorldLingo? I find that site better than Babelfish, though it does sometimes have the same problems.

I'll have a look at that.

Vilkacis wrote:I see no reason to discard a tool just because it's not perfect. It actually does a much better job now than it ever used to.

*shrug*

-- Vilkacis

I won't discard it. I use it only if I'm curious at whats being said.

wow, Wir sind weg vor dem Thema.

waywolf wrote:wow, Wir sind weg vor dem Thema.

C'est la vie.

We are forever going off-topic.


-- Vilkacis

Vilkacis wrote:

waywolf wrote:wow, Wir sind weg vor dem Thema.

C'est la vie.

We are forever going off-topic.


-- Vilkacis

Heh, I wonder if anyone has thought of this. Somebody starts a thread and posts something. The next person goes off-topic. Then the third goes even more off-topic. Each post can't be a responce to the previous post. It has to be off-topic.

Hmmm...maybe its been done already. Oh well.

Ich weié, nicht warum dieses geschieht.
I think what took us off topic was someone wrote something in Japanese.
i dunno.

Figarou wrote:

Vilkacis wrote:

Figarou wrote:sure..why not.

Tafadhali niletee chakula moto haraka. Nina njaa sana!

Asante sana! Squash banana! Wewe nugu! Mimi apana!

-- Vilkacis

oh yeah!! Now for some pirate talk!!


RRR rRR rrRRRRR rrR rR rrrRR!

RRRRr R R r RRRRRR rRrrrrRRRr!

In werewolf!

wooof bark bark woof Grrrrr woof

Woof bark bark Grrrrrr bark bark


llama!!

Nuuurrr Nuuu NURRR NURRRRR NUUEEE RRR NUR!

RrrrrRRr rrrRRRrrr RrRR

The llama translate into : We all derail topics too much! Nur!

Edit: Damn, look at all the stuff, and random junk, Vuldari is going to have to catch up on!

wolf marine wrote:OK, WE'VE BEEN OFF TOPIC FOR A LONG TIME SO LETS GET BACK ON IT!!!

I'm thinking posibly a mod or admin should cut and paste some of the stuff here as 'randomnized stuff' in the non were section so we may get back on the once fun topic.

outwarddoodles wrote:

wolf marine wrote:OK, WE'VE BEEN OFF TOPIC FOR A LONG TIME SO LETS GET BACK ON IT!!!

I'm thinking posibly a mod or admin should cut and paste some of the stuff here as 'randomnized stuff' in the non were section so we may get back on the once fun topic.

I agree, I liked this post untill ot got like this! FIX IT!!!!

wolf marine wrote:

outwarddoodles wrote:

wolf marine wrote:OK, WE'VE BEEN OFF TOPIC FOR A LONG TIME SO LETS GET BACK ON IT!!!

I'm thinking posibly a mod or admin should cut and paste some of the stuff here as 'randomnized stuff' in the non were section so we may get back on the once fun topic.

I agree, I liked this post untill ot got like this! FIX IT!!!!

Instead of complaining, why not add a perk instead?


Not a perk-Other Werewolves bigger than you.

perk you-always have your own tooth pick at hand
not a perk-weirdos want you to bite them

Not a perk: having to explain to everyone who does find out what you are that it's not at all like Underworld, Van Helsing, or Cursed. (At least, I hope to God it's not. If it were, I'd have to re-think my life ambitions and daydream about winning the lottery like everybody else.)

Sorry if I offended you Figarou, didn't meen to. I promise no more non-English languages.

My Apologies,
Fen

Not a perk- chairs and tails don't mix

Fenrir wrote:Sorry if I offended you Figarou, didn't meen to. I promise no more non-English languages.

My Apologies,
Fen

Not a perk- chairs and tails don't mix

You didn't offend me at all. Its great to know more than one language.

Whats confusing is the type of language thats being used. Japanese, Chinese, Korean, ETC. may look the same. But there are some differences. What there are, I don't know.

Other languages are easy to spot and some I never seen before.

Lobohombre and Lobombre means werewolf in spanish. But notice the different spelling? Not all spanish speaking countries spell the word the same way. Also some uses a completely different word even though its still a spanish speaking country.


What I don't like is having to take what was said and place it into babelfish. On rare occasions, babelfish may place a word that wouldn't make sence. That or not translate it at all.

Again, you didn't offend me at all. Nobody did.

Figarou wrote:Whats confusing is the type of language thats being used. Japanese, Chinese, Korean, ETC. may look the same. But there are some differences. What there are, I don't know.

これは日本語だ。 This is Japanese.

这是用中文。This is Chinese.

이것은 한국어안에 있는다. This is Korean.

(I used babelfish for the Chinese and Korean, so those sentences might not make sense)

Both Japanese and Chinese are similar because they use a lot of the same characters (Kanji / Hanzi), but it's really easy to tell the difference once you realize that Japanese uses extensively a small set of characters called hiragana for most of its grammar. These characters are less complex-looking than the kanji, and appear in every sentence.

A few hiragana: あいうえおかきこけこさしすせそ
Compare with kanji: 私犬龍格好森虎

You can see that kanji are generally more complex on average (but not in every case). Hiragana characters take on average about two or three strokes to write, whereas kanji can take many, many more.

Chinese sentences are generally much more complex-looking than Japanese sentences because they are made up entirely of Hanzi, and lack anything comparable to hiragana.

As for Korean, it doesn't look anything at all like the others to me. If you look at it closely, you'll see that it's made up of a relatively small subset of strokes that it uses to make up each character. It appears very 'disconnected' to my eyes -- you can easily split up the characters into different regions: top-left, top-right, bottom, left-side, right-side.

So, to summarize:
Chinese -- most visually complex
Japanese -- both simple and complex mixed together
Korean -- a very small number of elements that are used over and over; very uniform

-- Vilkacis

Vilkacis wrote:

Figarou wrote:Whats confusing is the type of language thats being used. Japanese, Chinese, Korean, ETC. may look the same. But there are some differences. What there are, I don't know.

これは日本語だ。 This is Japanese.

这是用中文。This is Chinese.

이것은 한국어안에 있는다. This is Korean.

(I used babelfish for the Chinese and Korean, so those sentences might not make sense)

The Chinese makes sense to me. Though I can't remember if the middle character is 'with' or 'use'... so is it, "This is with Chinese"? I can't remember. I've been out of Chinese school for too long.

Perk- You can see in black and white
Not a perk- You can see in black and white.

wolf marine wrote:STAY ON SUBJECT!!!!!!!!!!!

I did, see?

wolfhanyou wrote: Perk- You can see in black and white
Not a perk- You can see in black and white.

Not a Perk く: And you though vacuuming was annoying before...

wolf marine wrote:STAY ON SUBJECT!!!!!!!!!!!

I don't see any content in that post.

wolfhanyou wrote:Perk- You can see in black and white
Not a perk- You can see in black and white.

Dogs have color vision, actually.

perk-you get to sniff dogs butts
not a perk-you get to sniff dogs butts

Lupin wrote:

wolfhanyou wrote:Perk- You can see in black and white
Not a perk- You can see in black and white.

Dogs have color vision, actually.

Really? Huh. Always thought they saw in black and white.

Not a perk- When caught after curfew, you go to the pound
Not a perk- The leash law in some cities

Perk- You can roll around in the mud without getting odd looks.

Wolfhanyou wrote: Really? Huh. Always thought they saw in black and white.

Yeah, they have color vision, but it's equivlent to someone that is red-green colorblind.

Perk け: No more stumbling around looking for stuff in the dark.

perk-chicks like dogs
not a perk-chicks wont sleep with a dog