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Posted: Sun Sep 03, 2006 7:25 pm
by Cavman
Night Rain wrote:I'm going to maintain that a werewolf eating babies would be no more nonsensical than a werewolf is to begin with.
And I will maintain the opposite. Even thogh werewolves would be unatural to begin with, they would exibit wolf instincts, even in the most primal and blood-raged state. The only creatures that eat their own offspring are insects and other forms of SMALL animals. I do not think werewolves would fall under this category, even if they are pure and utter bullshit.
Posted: Sun Sep 03, 2006 7:27 pm
by Lupin
Night Rain wrote:Lupin wrote:There's choosing, and then there's 'pulling crazy nonsensical bullshit out of the middle of nowhere.'
Yeah, kinda like transforming into a half-wolf half-human
thing.
Caterpillars turn into butterflies.
Water-dwelling tadpoles turn into land-dwelling frogs.
The thought of an animal changing into something that looks different isn't that far-fetched.
Night Rain wrote:
I'm going to maintain that a werewolf eating babies would be no more nonsensical than a werewolf is to begin with.
Anything that's a product of evolution wouldn't eat their own offspring, as that completely defeats the point of procreation.
Posted: Sun Sep 03, 2006 7:40 pm
by lupine
From a totally unbiased point of view(although I AM a horror fan)....IF werewolves were real(they might be) they COULD retain an element of human rationality to their thinking. They COULD also go completely feral and bestial. I understand White Paws thinking over the baby eating thing. If the were is a feral, cursed, monster that feeds on humans, gross as it may seem, a baby is human, so.... DINNER IS SERVED. Its all ifs and buts. My personal mental picture of a werewolf has always been something, wild, and savage, not necessarily evil, but certainly cursed. I have however started thinking of it in a slightly different way after reading the 'Bitten' trilogy of books. The idea of werewolves keeping a sense of rationale and humanity after a change makes for an interesting story. But these books also allow for the fact that they can be overcome by an urge to hunt or even(in the case of Mutts) prey on humans, not just for food but for fun.
As far as I'm concerned, that covers all the bases and with that in mind I'm WELL happy. Horror and an intelligent drama can co-exist.
I think good and evil werewolves COULD exist in the same society, just as we have good, pure, clean living people living alongside the vilest child harming serial murdering scum. We have to be open minded.

Posted: Sun Sep 03, 2006 7:43 pm
by Night Rain
And I will maintain the opposite. Even thogh werewolves would be unatural to begin with, they would exibit wolf instincts, even in the most primal and blood-raged state. The only creatures that eat their own offspring are insects and other forms of SMALL animals. I do not think werewolves would fall under this category, even if they are pure and utter bullshit.
They are a figment of various imaginations. What they "would" do is centered entirely around personal opinion. Again, stating their behavior as fact makes no sense.
Caterpillars turn into butterflies.
Water-dwelling tadpoles turn into land-dwelling frogs.
The thought of an animal changing into something that looks different isn't that far-fetched.
Two stages in a life form that has evolved that way is vastly different from taking two serparate creatures and expecting them to merge.
Anything that's a product of evolution wouldn't eat their own offspring, as that completely defeats the point of procreation.
Rabbits will eat their own offspring if they become stressed/nervous after birth, but then
rabbits were created by a divine being.
Posted: Sun Sep 03, 2006 7:47 pm
by Lupin
Night Rain wrote:
Caterpillars turn into butterflies.
Water-dwelling tadpoles turn into land-dwelling frogs.
The thought of an animal changing into something that looks different isn't that far-fetched.
Two stages in a life form that has evolved that way is vastly different from taking two serparate creatures and expecting them to merge.
You've missed the point.
Night Rain wrote:
Anything that's a product of evolution wouldn't eat their own offspring, as that completely defeats the point of procreation.
Rabbits will eat their own offspring if they become stressed/nervous after birth, but then rabbits were created by a divine being.
Stressed or nervous had nothing to do with it. The poster was saying they'd do it because the offspring was 'human'
Posted: Sun Sep 03, 2006 7:59 pm
by lupine
It all comes down to ones perception of a werewolf.
If you go with the EVIL, BERSERKER kind of werewolf, this thing is OK.
If you go with the Lateral thinking humanesque kind of werewolf, then obviously IT isn't going to wash.
Its a personal thing and no single person is right or wrong.
Posted: Sun Sep 03, 2006 8:00 pm
by Cavman
Did it come across that i was ring to put that out as a fact? I'm sorry if it did, I am normaly better in my wording so as not to say something I don't wanna say.
Posted: Sun Sep 03, 2006 8:10 pm
by Night Rain
You've missed the point.
So this elusive point is...
Stressed or nervous had nothing to do with it. The poster was saying they'd do it because the offspring was 'human'
See my previous posts about stating their behavior as fact.
And you said "Anything that's a product of evolution wouldn't eat their own offspring" which is wrong.
Did it come across that i was ring to put that out as a fact?
The instinct part did.
Posted: Sun Sep 03, 2006 8:19 pm
by Cavman
Night Rain wrote:See my previous posts about stating their behavior as fact.
Now your just using thatr ule against us whom
Accidently say it like that.
Posted: Sun Sep 03, 2006 8:24 pm
by Night Rain
Believe it or not, I can't tell from here what you did/didn't intent to say and in what way you did/didn't intend to say it.
Posted: Sun Sep 03, 2006 8:27 pm
by lupine
It's all getting a bit confusing. So. Can we start from the beginning??
Who's for? Who's against and Who thinks it doesn't matter?
Posted: Sun Sep 03, 2006 8:27 pm
by lupine
I'm voting FOR.. It COULD happen.
Posted: Sun Sep 03, 2006 8:27 pm
by Lupin
Night Rain wrote:You've missed the point.
So this elusive point is...
Stressed or nervous had nothing to do with it. The poster was saying they'd do it because the offspring was 'human'
See my previous posts about stating their behavior as fact.
Still wrong. That's a seperate point. The point I was making with that, should be fairly obvious since I stated it quite plainly:"The thought of an animal changing into something that looks different isn't that far-fetched."
Posted: Sun Sep 03, 2006 8:29 pm
by Night Rain
Lupin wrote:Night Rain wrote:You've missed the point.
So this elusive point is...
Stressed or nervous had nothing to do with it. The poster was saying they'd do it because the offspring was 'human'
See my previous posts about stating their behavior as fact.
Still wrong. That's a seperate point. The point I was making with that, should be fairly obvious since I stated it quite plainly:"The thought of an animal changing into something that looks different isn't that far-fetched."
The thought crossed my mind, but since I never denied metamorphosis I couldn't see why you'd want to prove it's existence.
Posted: Sun Sep 03, 2006 8:29 pm
by White Paw
Posted: Sun Sep 03, 2006 8:32 pm
by BlackWolfDS
Night Rain wrote:Lupin wrote:Night Rain wrote:You've missed the point.
So this elusive point is...
Stressed or nervous had nothing to do with it. The poster was saying they'd do it because the offspring was 'human'
See my previous posts about stating their behavior as fact.
Still wrong. That's a seperate point. The point I was making with that, should be fairly obvious since I stated it quite plainly:"The thought of an animal changing into something that looks different isn't that far-fetched."
The thought crossed my mind, but since I never denied metamorphosis I couldn't see why you'd want to prove it's existence.
It's not a normal metamorphosis.
Posted: Sun Sep 03, 2006 8:32 pm
by Night Rain
White Paw wrote:
You seem to have held that expression for some time now. Did the wind change?
Posted: Sun Sep 03, 2006 8:34 pm
by lupine
Posted: Sun Sep 03, 2006 8:36 pm
by White Paw
nope just watching what i started.....

Posted: Sun Sep 03, 2006 8:37 pm
by Cavman
Night Rain wrote:Believe it or not, I can't tell from here what you did/didn't intent to say and in what way you did/didn't intend to say it.
Eh... Hmmmm..... What?

Posted: Sun Sep 03, 2006 8:41 pm
by Night Rain
Cavman wrote:Night Rain wrote:Believe it or not, I can't tell from here what you did/didn't intent to say and in what way you did/didn't intend to say it.
Eh... Hmmmm..... What?

Text only conveys what you write in it. I don't know who has said something "accidentally" or not.
Posted: Sun Sep 03, 2006 8:57 pm
by Shadow Wulf
Night Rain wrote:Cavman wrote:Night Rain wrote:Believe it or not, I can't tell from here what you did/didn't intent to say and in what way you did/didn't intend to say it.
Eh... Hmmmm..... What?

Text only conveys what you write in it. I don't know who has said something "accidentally" or not.
thats why you should try to make the best assumptions,
something a lttle more positive.
Posted: Sun Sep 03, 2006 11:04 pm
by Set
Bleah. Can't you people just agree to disagree? Chill, yeesh.
I merely wish to know why some people think a werewolf would eat her own young. I want a reason, damn it! Give me a bloody reason!
What's the point in reproducing if you're only going to chomp your offspring?
Posted: Sun Sep 03, 2006 11:20 pm
by Apokryltaros
Set wrote:Bleah. Can't you people just agree to disagree? Chill, yeesh.
I merely wish to know why some people think a werewolf would eat her own young. I want a reason, damn it! Give me a bloody reason!
What's the point in reproducing if you're only going to chomp your offspring?
Maybe because they like babies too much?
Posted: Sun Sep 03, 2006 11:31 pm
by BlackWolfDS
I think some believe the whole "Eating their own offspring thing" becuase we have been taught, well some, that werewolves, vampires, anything of the occult, is bad and scary. If it's bad and scary, it must do bad and scary things right? And then some beileve that werewolves eat their young becuase of their "nature". Becuase they are feral and wild. But that is not true. Many feral and wild creatures don't eat their young, they care and protect them. That's just my opinion on this matter.