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He did deserve it. You did nothing to deserve the way he was treating you, so HE is to blame! He was the one beating on you, HE was the one being a complete Jackazz to everyone, and he got told how exactly where to go. And I got the privelege to do it. Its not right what he did, and you know it. The fact that you love him has nothing to do with it, its just an excuse. Its just time to own up to reality Fang. Put up or shut up.

*looks at Moon and shrugs* you could put it that way

You do not know him as I do, He has shown me nothing but kindness and love, and yes I know it was not right, but I have long since forgiven him, can't we all just stop this fight. You are reluctant to change your views, but try to see through the eyes of my love

At this point, I think that WP realizes the error of his ways. I think he was starting to realize it before you even got to him. There's no doubt that you had driven the point home, and I honestly won't argue with it. White Paw did need to be berated for that stupidity, because it can get people hurt.
However, the thing I will argue with is the intensity that you argued. It's clear that after a certain point, you both were simply reacting to each other, and it got worse and worse. At some point, Fang had called to me for help. I'm glad he did , because at least now there's a somewhat cool head that cares for both of you.
Now I want you both to stop arguing. Right NOW.

The arguement is dead. You may now only say the good things that you have experienced here, and, if possible, about each other.

*snorts* love is a cruel joke. I have forgiven him too, I'm just telling you how it is/was, whatever. You need to see the other side of things too. I'm not the only one that is "reluctant to change my views".

I will temporarily ignore that last comment, Wicked. Remeber what I had just said, and do it.
By the way, Anook, free to mention good points about these two, if you wish.

I know, I am too, but having been with WP for two months and only one incident, you can see we have had a good track record.
so I see your point, I know he was wrong, but we shouldn't get too passionate about these things.

Fang, listen to me very carefully.
*Grabs him by the muzzle, forcing him to look straight into Moon's eyes*
Enough.
*Lets go of his muzzle, sitting*

um no. I'm done with this. I told you Moon, more than once it wouldn't work....but liek I jsut said, I. Am. Done. *turns around and lopes off away from you all, sick and tired of it, not wanting to return*

yes I shall stop this now, it must end somewhere, why not end it myself

*Puts his head in his hands, closing his eyes* Goddam it...
*Thinks out loud* You know, Wicked, this isn't too far from White Paw's initial behavior. Do you think that we could try a bit better than that?
I'd like to, personally.

*A worried look flashes across face*

And here I thought this issue was beginning to be resolved.

*Watches Wicked leave.*

*Sigh* I know...I'm about to drag them both back, but I can't. I can force them here, but it's up to them to try and work together.

The longer I live, the more I realize the impact of attitude on life. Attitude, to me, is more important than facts. It is more important than the past, the education, the money, than circumstances, than failure, than successes, than what other people think or say or do. It is more important than appearance, giftedness or skill. It will make or break a company... a church... a home. The remarkable thing is we have a choice everyday regarding the attitude we will embrace for that day. We cannot change our past... we cannot change the fact that people will act in a certain way. We cannot change the inevitable. The only thing we can do is play on the one string we have, and that is our attitude. I am convinced that life is 10% what happens to me and 90% of how I react to it. And so it is with you... we are in charge of our Attitudes.

I know. The lesson is there, it's just a matter of application, and appreciation.

*stops dead and whips around, sprinting back and stopping so close to Moon he falls over backwards* Think what you may Moon, but there is a difference between the way White Paw behaved and the way I am. White Paw has a pack, he has mates, he is an alpha. From what I understand from what he told me, "he was just playing around like that because of stress and it got out of hand." Me, sure, I may have been accepted by a few here, but this isn't my pack, as much as it pains me to say. I have no mate, nor do I think I have the patience or mental stability to have one, and I'm a rogue. I'm am the way I am after years of defense and loneliness. I'm frustrated, at my wits end, and on the verge of losing what little i have left of my mind. *gets right in Moons face* Don't you dare ever put me to that level again, because everything I do has a reason, whether you can see it or not.

Since you don't consider yourself apart of this pack, then why not consider yourself a friend of ours.

I mean, I cannot even imagine where I would be today were it not for that handful of friends who have given me a heart full of joy. Let's face it, friends make life a lot more fun.



(Just trying to give some words of wisdom. I just had to say something on the rogue thing.)

*Eyes narrow in irritation* I know that. *Pushes in the same way, making her back up* Whether you realize it or not, your thought of being a "rogue" is something that you want because of the fact that you don't want to commit. You are afraid of things like this, expecting to lose what you have, putting yourself in a position to do it, and then feeling unsurprised to have such loss.
*Pushes even further* You know that I have cared for you more than most can imagine. I would gladly be your mate, whether you realize it or not.
"This isn't my pack". What the hell do you think we've been doing with you? I can see that there have been those who have cared for you when you've spoken out. Granted, you might step on a few toes. That happens EVERYWHERE! Just because you get cut doesn't mean that you can't walk.
Is your pain a lot deeper than most have experienced. Probably. Have you been afraid to commit? HELL, YES!
BUT THAT DOESN'T MEAN THAT YOU CAN'T ENJOY IT HERE! USE SOME PATIENCE! LET THE ONES WHO WANT TO TRY AND HELP YOU DO SO! YOU MIGHT ACTUALLY BE ABLE TO BE HERE AND ENJOY IT!

*looks at Moon, eyes narrow but calm* Don't yell at me Moon. I have had a very bad time the last couple of days, White Paw knows, maybe he'll tell you. I have talked to him a lot about it, and he has convinced me to stay and try to be a part of this pack, so I would appreciate it if you would. keep. your. voice. down. Thank you.

*Quietly slips away and takes off into the sky. Letting her wings stretche fully out so they can catch the sun.*

*slowly pads over and sits watching moon and wicked...*

*keeps quiet and calm...waiting to be called upon and/or recognized*

*very slowly waggs tail*

*Stops, sighs, takes a long, deep breath, and nods*
I know. I just cared for you enough that I didn't want to lose you.
*Looks to the side, noticing White Paw. Smiles* Hey, White Paw.

*smiles and waggs tail.....*


hey moon....how are you....

*siighs*

looks like i missed alot.....im so sorry i left....i should have been here to help control things....

*Shakes his head* It's alright. That was then, and this is now.
*Looks at both of them*
They say anger is the only thing that grows in captivity. Let's let it go.
*Grins mischeviously*
However, I have instincts that must be obeyed.
*Pounces on both of them, licking them both silly*

*GHAAAAAAAAAAA....gets pounced......growells playfully....*


hehehe.....um...moon...i need to talk with you in private....is that o.k.

*lays there and smiles....waggs tail*