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Lupin wrote:

Excelsia wrote:But, I also am not in favor of seeing wolven heads with completely human attachments. Ew. Silverclaw definitely said it right when she said it makes them look like furries. But, I also don't want a completely lupine look, because then they will look hunched. I'd prefer a nice medium.

I was looking through some pictures, and evidently wolves don't really have that hunched look when they're standing up and looking forward. So I'm changing my vote back to undecided.

What is actually giving that "hutched look?" Is it the extra fur *they put on the neck area?

*they....as in the artists.

Figarou wrote:What is actually giving that "hutched look?" Is it the extra fur *they put on the neck area?

*they....as in the artists.

The relation of the head to the shoulders/back. See your avatar.

Lupin wrote:

Figarou wrote:What is actually giving that "hutched look?" Is it the extra fur *they put on the neck area?

*they....as in the artists.

The relation of the head to the shoulders/back. See your avatar.

I keep wondering. Owls can almost rotate thier heads 360 degrees. Can werewolves be the same way? I'm not talking about rotating 360 degrees. I'm talking about being able to move the head more freely compared to a human.

Figarou wrote:I keep wondering. Owls can almost rotate thier heads 360 degrees. Can werewolves be they same way? I'm not talking about rotating 360 degrees. I'm talking about being able to move the head more freely compared to a human.

That would depend mostly on how the head is attached to the neck.

Lupin wrote:

Figarou wrote:I keep wondering. Owls can almost rotate thier heads 360 degrees. Can werewolves be they same way? I'm not talking about rotating 360 degrees. I'm talking about being able to move the head more freely compared to a human.

That would depend mostly on how the head is attached to the neck.

attached..or bone structure?

Owls have fourteen neck bones (vertebrae) which are very flexible. Thats how they can rotate the head about 270 degrees. We humans have seven neck bones. Can any changes to the neck bones give the werewolf more free movement of the head?


edit...If the jaws/nose can extend to represent the muzzle, I think the neck bones can change as well. To give the free neck movement just like a wolf.

Figarou wrote:attached..or bone structure?

I'd say neck attachment, IIRC wolf only has four cervical vertabrae, and they can still do this:

Lupin wrote:

Figarou wrote:attached..or bone structure?

I'd say neck attachment, IIRC wolf only has four cervical vertabrae, and they can still do this:

Of course.

A wolf can do that. But a human can't. What changes are necessary so the human neck can be more like a wolf?

Does the head pop off then re-attach itself? Or does the bone structure rearrange itself?

Inquiring minds want to know.

Um...I lean more towards rearranging.

Rearranging itself, although poping out would be funny.

lol, yeah, some guy will be tfing to gestalt form with a newbie watching...
*POP! Head falls to weird angle and just dangles for a bit*
*Newbie ww gasps in horror*
TFing WW-'Its alright, thats normal'

Lupin wrote:

Figarou wrote:attached..or bone structure?

I'd say neck attachment, IIRC wolf only has four cervical vertabrae, and they can still do this:

I thought all mammals have seven cervical vertebrate.

Silverclaw wrote:lol, yeah, some guy will be tfing to gestalt form with a newbie watching...
*POP! Head falls to weird angle and just dangles for a bit*
*Newbie ww gasps in horror*
TFing WW-'Its alright, thats normal'

Its been done. Have you seen An american werewolf in Paris?


The girl looks up at the moon and you can see that her neck dislocates as she TFs. Then you see her knees bend backwards later on in the TF.

ehhhh
thats right

Well it depends on the shape of the body. They stand on two legs of the hunched look is good. Depends on how much their hunched and all. Hard to tell. Like the one on Van Helsing that looks good.

i draw my were's like this.

http://www.deviantart.com/deviation/23969123/

Eh excuse the butt dragging, anyways, the way the neck is, it can be hunched or not hunched but still look alright because of the placement and length.

All canine, and the neck should connect based on how the 'wolf stands at the time.