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Posted: Wed Aug 23, 2006 7:27 am
by Fang
Acctually a tail helps provide ballance and stability to an animal, it also helps wolves comunicate.

Hollywood wolves might be original, but they're leading people down the wrong path of what a were should look like.

Sabers and rat things and cat things no way.

Posted: Wed Aug 23, 2006 7:36 am
by Figarou
Fang wrote:Acctually a tail helps provide ballance and stability to an animal,.......
......while running on all fours.

In a kangaroo's case, balance for hopping.



For standing on 2 legs, no.

If that was the case, how come WE don't have tails for that purpose?

Posted: Wed Aug 23, 2006 7:42 am
by Fang
Because of our complex balance syste of fulid that runs through our inner ear.

Posted: Wed Aug 23, 2006 7:47 am
by Figarou
Fang wrote:Because of our complex balance syste of fulid that runs through our inner ear.

I knew that.

Its called.......Equilibrioception. Or Sence of balance.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sense_of_balance

Posted: Wed Aug 23, 2006 7:48 am
by Fang
But other than that, I just think the tail looks cool. You wouldn't be a true were without one.

Posted: Wed Aug 23, 2006 10:45 am
by Lupin
Figarou wrote:If that was the case, how come WE don't have tails for that purpose?
Because we have a big toe on each foot.

Posted: Wed Aug 23, 2006 11:15 am
by Kirk Hammett
On the topic...I don't think Id beg to be bitten without knowing the consequences. It'd be a full time 'job', hiding it all. It depends if the benefits outweigh the cost...and of course, its more likely theyd say no or kill you on the spot. I think Id sort of stay away from them, safe in Australia :P

If I were a 'werewolf' I would be the species I created which is a little different to your typical one and maybe even the term werewolf isn't entirely correct if the term in most people's view is the movie ones or a set of guidelines everyone's created, or the really traditional ones. Mine really is a fantasy creature...they have monkey like tails in human form and feed very differently to a werewolf or a human...or animals in general. They can be of any sort of animal, mine are generally wolf shape shifters, there are felines and bears and birds and such. Really fantasy. But it'd be a bit hard hiding the tail, but I'd live with that. They have amazing abilities but are after all partially 'human' in a sense, since they can only make another of their kind the same way a human or wolf makes another...by breeding and having babies. There is no contagious bite or full moon. Their inside anatomy is different too.

But my real dream is to pursue my music career! I don't mind teaching guitar, but I want to start on my solo album soon and form a band, or join a band. Since teaching is such good money, and researching birds (one of my dream jobs) is perhaps also good money...I should be well on my way.

But I will create stories of another world in my head until the day I die. Why not...it's a lot of fun and Im off to bed to do just that. :howl:  :oo

Posted: Wed Aug 23, 2006 1:23 pm
by vrikasatma
Shadow Wulf wrote:Why do you really need a tail, honestly, just because a werewolf doesn't have a tail won't make a single difference, its just an add on.
Nope. A tail adds appreciably to balance, especially if you're bipedal. I lament the fact that the human species doesn't have tails — it's the leading reason why lower back pain and injuries are rife amongst humans :(

I had a friend who made a large-scale bipedal dragon costume, complete with tail. He was a large man with back problems but he could cruise up and down some fairly steep hills with that tail acting as a counterbalance. He said its presence actually made hillclimbing easier.

And a bipedal werewolf would especially need it because they're balancing on the physiological equivalent of pumps. It's difficult enough walking around tailless with a heel-walking stance, it's even harder if you're walking on your toes.

Posted: Wed Aug 23, 2006 3:06 pm
by Vuldari
Shadow Wulf wrote:Non sense, you can never be TOO original. It's always good to have completly new ideas for other people to get their concept off of.
IMAGINARY Pitch for a new Werwolf movie:
For my next film, I was thinking of taking the legend of the Werewolf in a new dirrection. This project, which I am entitling "Lycanthrope Moon" is about a clan of werewolves vs. the Illuminati, who are trying to wipe them out. In my version of the werwolf, I felt that the old "Hairy Beast" model just wasn't frightening enough, so I looked back at my childhood and thought of the things that scared me the most. In this film, werwolves come from an insectoid parasite that originates from the moon. They thrive upon the unique radiation that comes from the moons surface, and when they are exposed to it, the hosts body transforms into a dragonfly winged lizard-like creature with an extra set of intectoid legs under thier arms, and they hunt down prey to devour, and implant thier eggs into the strongest humans they can find (the only compatable species on the planet, along with some wolves), which transforms the hosts into Lycanthropes as well. I have allways felt that bugs and lizards are MUCH scarier than boring, cliche Dog-People, and now that they have wings and can survive underwater for hours, there is no where thier victoms can hide...and with radioactive exoskeletons, they are also bullet-proof against all but the most powerful weapons, and are harder to kill than cockroaches. Their only weakness is bullets forged from depleted uranium (the radiation counters that of the moon...and I thought the 'Silver' angle was overused). I think I have truely created the Lycanthrope of the next generation of Werewolf Fans. Unlike other Film makers, writers and artists, I am not afraid to come up with "ORIGINAL" ideas, and stray from the tired and boring steriotypes.

*Smiles with Utmost confidence and Pride*
So in YOUR opinion, this concept would not be considered 'TOO Original' ?

Posted: Wed Aug 23, 2006 4:02 pm
by Silverclaw
Nope. A tail adds appreciably to balance, especially if you're bipedal. I lament the fact that the human species doesn't have tails
Damn straight! :D Wish humans did have tails. And not just those useless flabs of skin 'n meat some are born with. :wink:
:wagtail:

I'd watch that movie Vuldari :lol:

Posted: Wed Aug 23, 2006 4:15 pm
by Apokryltaros
Vuldari wrote:
Shadow Wulf wrote:Non sense, you can never be TOO original. It's always good to have completly new ideas for other people to get their concept off of.
Pitch for a new Werwolf movie:
For my next film, I was thinking of taking the legend of the Werewolf in a new dirrection.
*snip "originality" jibberish*
I think I have truely created the Lycanthrope of the next generation of Werewolf Fans. Unlike other Film makers, writers and artists, I am not afraid to come up with "ORIGINAL" ideas, and stray from the tired and boring steriotypes.


*Smiles with Utmost confidence and Pride*
So in YOUR opinion, this concept would not be considered 'TOO Original' ?
Yes, this guy's idea of taking werewolves, and cleaving out the reason why we call them "werewolves" is so original, I want to puke my guts up.

Query, Vuldari:
What rock did you find this "proposal" under?
At the proposed site of the Yucca Mountain Nuclear Waste Dump?

Posted: Wed Aug 23, 2006 5:35 pm
by vrikasatma
No need to get in his face about it...

That having been said, my "Bullshit" light went on when I read that writeup. One can be original and still be respectful to the source. That premise was original but it wasn't respectful. Alien bugs implanting their eggs in humans and wolves? Mmmmmmmmmerrrrrrrrrrhhhh.... :?

It depends on what the style of the film is. Wild imagination, whacky, sort of tongue-in-cheek in a creepy way...I can see it. Otherwise it's a little hard to swallow. We'll see.

Right...back to Burning Man packing...

Posted: Wed Aug 23, 2006 5:39 pm
by Apokryltaros
I wasn't getting in his face, er, I didn't mean to sound like I was trying to get in his face, but, how exactly can one call flying lizards that implant their eggs in people and wolves werewolves, when they don't look like wolves or people at all, and that they can only be killed by depleted uranium?

Also, I wouldn't say that that person was "disrespectful" to the original idea. The person metaphysically disembowelled the original idea and spread its guts around the forest branchs like sticky tinsel.

Posted: Wed Aug 23, 2006 5:58 pm
by vrikasatma
I agree, the premise of dragonfly-winged lizards from the Moon is implausible.

This is coming from one who postulates that shapechanging is controlled by divine fire and the Moon is inimicable to the shapeshifter race, mind... [pointing at self]

Posted: Wed Aug 23, 2006 6:08 pm
by Apokryltaros
Well, it's not the idea of Moon-bugs that turn people and or wolves into people that turn into dragonfly winged lizards that I find horrid, it's the idea of calling people and or wolves who turn into dragonfly winged lizards due to Moon-bugs werewolves I have trouble with.
Besides, what isn't resistant to divine fire?

Posted: Wed Aug 23, 2006 7:23 pm
by Vuldari
Okay...I thought the absurdity of the post would make it clear enough on it's own, but apparently not.

I made that up.

I intentionally made up the grossest, stupidest variation of werewolves as I could to emphisise a point. ...that somewhere, you have to draw a line at how much you can change something before it has no right to be called that same thing any more.

...seriously...the "*Smiles with utmost confidence and Pride**" insert at the end didn't tip you off that I wasn't being serious?


It was just a bunch of BS...I didn't "get it" from anywhere...


Sorry for the Confusion. Image

Posted: Wed Aug 23, 2006 8:55 pm
by vrikasatma
Don't apologize, there *are* people who are moronic enough to do something like that in all sincerity.

Posted: Wed Aug 23, 2006 9:00 pm
by Apokryltaros
Vuldari wrote:Okay...I thought the absurdity of the post would make it clear enough on it's own, but apparently not.

I made that up.

I intentionally made up the grossest, stupidest variation of werewolves as I could to emphasize a point. ...that somewhere, you have to draw a line at how much you can change something before it has no right to be called that same thing any more.

...seriously...the "*Smiles with utmost confidence and Pride**" insert at the end didn't tip you off that I wasn't being serious?


It was just a bunch of BS...I didn't "get it" from anywhere...


Sorry for the Confusion. Image
Well, frankly...
No, your smiling with pride and confidence didn't tip us off, given as how the Internet is teeming with creepy weirdos, many of whom are so stricken with stupidideaitis that they would heartily agree with your example.
That being said, your BS is the perfect example of having crossed the line that unmakes an idea.
vrikasatma wrote:Don't apologize, there *are* people who are moronic enough to do something like that in all sincerity.
And those are the sort of people that worry me.

Posted: Thu Aug 24, 2006 6:51 am
by Shadow Wulf
Vuldari wrote:Okay...I thought the absurdity of the post would make it clear enough on it's own, but apparently not.

I made that up.

I intentionally made up the grossest, stupidest variation of werewolves as I could to emphisise a point. ...that somewhere, you have to draw a line at how much you can change something before it has no right to be called that same thing any more.

...seriously...the "*Smiles with utmost confidence and Pride**" insert at the end didn't tip you off that I wasn't being serious?


It was just a bunch of BS...I didn't "get it" from anywhere...


Sorry for the Confusion. Image
I wouldn't have believed you anyway cause you didn't put up any link of the source and script seemed way too korny, and yes your *Smiles with utmost confidence and Pride** Did give it away.

Posted: Thu Aug 24, 2006 2:21 pm
by RedEye
Okay, Folks...could you please read my update on page two...it's about in the middle of the page.
There IS a reason for this.....

>The United States Government has admitted to using Werewolves as Black Ops personnell for the past twenty-five years.

>England has officially included Were's in their "Rights of Man" declaration, making all Brirish Were's full Crown Subjects.

Please note the Timing of these posts I'm making....

Posted: Thu Aug 24, 2006 4:56 pm
by vrikasatma
Well I'll be horn-swaggled.

Anubis, why didn't you say anything? :wink:

Posted: Thu Aug 24, 2006 5:25 pm
by Timber-WoIf
does this have to do with an RP or story by any chance?

RP or Story

Posted: Wed Aug 30, 2006 5:01 pm
by RedEye
The question is: does this have anything to do with a RPC or a Story?
Answer: No. At this particular time iin my life, I am not Role Playing...no time.
Yes, I am writing a book, yes it has to do about Werewolves; but this has nothing to do with it...I've already got that part plotted out.
So, Why?
I've watched these boards for quite a while, long before signing on as RedEye, and as far as I could see, nobody has really adressed the possibility they could somehow be real...completely ignoring laws of Energy Conservation, how much stress the humaniod frame could handle; basically just being and leaving the HOW for the rest of us to figure out.
So: I set up the Topic as if it were a real news release...that's the timing of my "releases", by the way...about every 48 to 72 hours something new comes up.
AND...I learned something, and I think a lot of us did as well.
Werewolves, were they real, would have about a one-week lifespan as News.
Were they real, after the first great uproar, it would be back to business.
If they existed, they would be absorbed much more readily than we, on this board, would believe.
Bless Vuldari! He was the person who gave the most realistic response: Investigate! Trust only what you can verify! Double check and cross check...find out what was really happening.
I did this not because I was bored, but because I wondered "what if they could somehow exist--what would happen?
I know a little bit more now. Thank you all for being my teachers.
I still wouldn't say categorically that they can't exist: the reason? Everything I learned way, way back in High School Science, for example, has been changed, modified, or completely tossed out in the intervening years of continuing study.
Things like Dark Matter, Dark Energy, External continuua (alternate dimensions), and particles that were neither matter nor energy exclusively were things of Science Fiction or Fantasy. Now, they are simple Cosmology, Quantum Physics, and Unification Theory.
If the Universe can change that much, as we learn how much we really don't know about things; so can the possiblity of Werewolf existence.
The message I've had reinforced here is this: We will never know for sure. We can speculate, think, or theorize; but we should never say never. I got "bitten" when I said on another Forum some time back that the theory of the Eleventh Dimension, or "Supergravity" was so much bunkum.
It's now plain Physics: it does exist, and all of us so-called experts who said "Impossible" were wrong. If we can be that erronious on a Cosmologic level, what about Biology?
No, they probably don't exist. But I never will say never again.
Thank you all!

Posted: Wed Aug 30, 2006 6:01 pm
by Searif
Anubis wrote:I would go insane if it was all legit, then i'll go off and fine some one to bite me, that's the gist of it.
probly be like sex, personal O.o EEEEEEEVIL! I BANISH THEE TO HELL! >.> that was random