Kavik wrote:Vuldari wrote:WHAT happened to all of you?!
Why do you WANT these things now?
Methinks you're exaggerating the situation a bit. I've seen people here claim they prefer the (overly)muscular werewolf over a more realistic approach, but I haven't seen anyone claim that more action, gore, rauch, etc. is called for. I haven't even noticed anyone state that
Freeborn needs to go with a hypermorphic body type. Folks is just spouting opinions, and we all have them.
I was actually responding to the attitudes behind
these comments.
Lupin wrote:The people who go to see this aren't going to know that or care until after the credits. They're going to see it because they see a trailer and go "Ooh cool werewolf."
Reilune wrote:However, I will instead respond by suggesting that we look at what, and who, sells well in Hollywood, generally. Of course there are some exceptions, but generally, when it comes to fantasy creatures such as werewolves, bigger and better is what people seem to want.
Since Freeborn will be a "different kind of werewolf movie", then it does not make sense to me to cater the look and feel of the werewolves and the film in general to the portion of the audience who does not care about anything but how scary the werwolves are.
...nor do I think making decisions about the film based on "what sells" should get as much priority as these comments suggest. Rather...I think more focus should be placed on setting the film apart from every film that has come before it. ...and having werewolves that look exactly what the braindead (the folks who make the lousiest movies some of the biggest sellers) masses are
expecting a "hollywood" werwolf to look like will not help to make this film stand out in peoples minds.
Also...a film that people remember and talk about months and years after seeing it will be alot better for the Cashell crews reputations than a film that makes a big hit on opening day (solely because the previews drew people in with "Kick A**" looking werewolves) and then is later forgotten because the werewolves in the next film (by a competing studio), looked even MORE "Kick A**".
Kavik wrote:When I saw Van Helsing in theaters I thought the werewolves were too bulked up and, quite frankly, ridiculous. But it does sell. I would hate to see anything like that in a drama, especially Freeborn. I reckon nobody really wants a drama with Vin Deisel-ish werewolves sitting around discussing, well... anything! But there still needs to be a horrific element to these things we call werewolves, and for many, a big imposing body captures that nicely.
I have never...NEVER said the werewolves should all look or act like
wusses. OF COURSE they should all look, at all times,
capable of mayhem. ...one just does not need to have 50% of their body mass in their arms and pecks, or be single-minded (complex, but obsessive), fearless characters who never cry to be menacing or dangerous.
...and again...would it be better to go for an overall look with lasting uniqueness, or something that will "SELL" for the initial weekend...
untill the mindless hordes realise that this is not a "Terminator" level action film and flock to the next muscle bound star surrounded by explosions like moths to a flame, forgetting about freeborn entirely?
If the werewolves look and move like Action stars, the people watching it will enevitably compare it to other films with "BadA**" looking characters in it...which would lead to the film appearning to be a slow, boring Action adventure in thier eyes, rather than the tense, fantasticly themed drama that it is/will be.
Kavik wrote:Personally, I thought the best part of the movie Sin City was when Marv, a big scary-looking guy, got taken down by Kevin, a very NON imposing character that may as well have been a werewolf for the ferocity and style he exhibited. A lot can be done with the element of surprise that doesn't require overkill, and I'm hoping to see some proof of this in Freeborn.
I have not seen SIN CITY...but that sounds like you know what I mean. There is nothing suprising or interesting about seeing a big guy beat up a little guy. However, the moment when one realises that the
other guy whom they had at first shrugged off as insignificant is actually far,
FAR more dangerous than he at first appeared has a much greater dramatic impact.
...you
LEARN to be afraid of him. ...the "Hard Way".