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Apokryltaros wrote:All I want for Christmas is a large, aesthetically appealing werewolf, whom if I want to make eye-contact with, I must crane my head up.
And who doesn't have skinny fingers, and does not have an excess of drool.
Is that too much to ask for?

Not at all. In fact, that's what I'm hoping for too.



However, I do concede that, as Reilune said, it is very difficult for me to separate myself from what I want in a werewolf. If I were a werewolf, I would want my physical form to be a manifestation of my inner self, and therefore it would probably be a large, intimidating, sensorily enlightened, beautiful, super-strong, super-fast, agile, noble creature (Yes, those things can go together. Don't argue with me, I really don't want to hear it. These are my opinions and you can't change 'em, so don't bother trying. I realize such a creature is scientifically unlikely, however, science can kiss my a**. Though I think movie werewolves should certainly give a small nod to realism, aesthetics is king, IMO.)

Excelsia wrote: Don't argue with me, I really don't want to hear it. These are my opinions and you can't change 'em, so don't bother trying.

So, does that mean you don't want to go to the Adult Film Festival with Scott and I?

Apokryltaros wrote:

Excelsia wrote: Don't argue with me, I really don't want to hear it. These are my opinions and you can't change 'em, so don't bother trying.

So, does that mean you don't want to go to the Adult Film Festival with Scott and I?

How can I resist, when you offer something so appealing?

van helsing...nuff said

wolfboy410 wrote:van helsing...nuff said

I don't know: something about combining lycanthropy with eczema rubs me the wrong way.

Well, that idea WAS actually taken from the mythology.

Meh, I liked that movie when I was younger, but now it just looks silly. But I do like the way they combined MAry Shelley's and the Universal Movies version of Frankensteins Monster/Adam.

*takes notes* wow....reading through 200+ posts is interesting.....

No joke...is this thread still active? I wouldn't mind voicing my opinion here.

Not for the dinosaur who started it back in the Cretaceous, no, but feel free to add your 2 cents (Pesos, Yen, whatever...). We have this bizarre policy where thread necromancy is perfectly fine.

Set wrote:Not for the dinosaur who started it back in the Cretaceous, no, but feel free to add your 2 cents (Pesos, Yen, whatever...). We have this bizarre policy where thread necromancy is perfectly fine.

It's not called "NecroPosting" or "Thread Necromancy" here.
We call it "Turning the Compost."

Yeah, and we don't call them "werewolves" here either. They're the "static form challenged".

I'm gonna go out of my way to 'LOL' at the previous two posts; emergent humor is fantastic.

Now here's what I think...let's start with what these muscles would be used for. As a combination of a human (who is a chase predator and long-distance forager) and a wolf (chase predator and ambush hunter), a werewolf would have a muscular structure that focuses on mostly on movement and navigational athleticism, but also on short but powerful bursts of energy for quick take-downs. This means you have a tall, lean, angular frame that is capable of significant joint compression.

The upper torso would place significant emphasis on muscles used to move the arms (or forelegs) in All-Fours mode. This includes the Lasstissimus Dorsi, Deltoids, and Trapezius muscles. Thus, a werewolf would have a hulking, slightly hunched appearance due to the uneven ratio of muscular structure between his back and front, though the pectoral muscles, being the largest muscle on the front of the body, would be accentuated by the increased size of the subject. Like on wolves, the neck would have thick muscular structure for protection against damage to the jugular and windpipe.

The lower torso would be more even but still much larger than a humans. Canines arch their backs to assist with movement, so the abdominal group, being the antagonist of the back-arching muscle groups would be accentuated as well. On a side note, I do not believe that a werewolf with a beer belly would lose said flabby gut when he changed; it might get smaller, but it would not evaporate into thin air.

The thighs would probably undergo the largest shift in mass of all muscles on the body. This muscle group is needed not only to assist with locomotion in the changed form, but must also provide the werewolf with the significant jumping capability he will need to correctly pounce his prey. If he so wanted, a werewolf could turn this impressive leaping power into vertical jump capability and jump a few meters straight up.

The hands and feet, though their change in muscle structure would not be much in terms of mass, would undergo a significant shift in terms of shape. the hands would become shorter and thicker, to accompany the stress they must undergo as pseudo-feet in All-Fours mode. The thumb would likely shift to a position that favors the top of the hand rather than the bottom (though the direction in which it flexes wouldn't change) to protect it from stress and damage while running. The feet, now being part of a quadrupedal system as opposed to a bipedal one, would shift the majority of their lode-bearing capacity to the front, or ball, of the foot, and to allow for greater traction on the smaller area, would expand laterally, or get wider.

Taking all this into account brings up the thought of what you could possibly wear in both forms. A loose shirt would do it, and you could probably get away with toe-less shoes, but any pair of pants would be torn asunder by the extra dozen or so vertebrae that would make up your tail (which, by the way, would be the most painful part of the transformation; the spinal cord does not like being stretched).

Also, I think there should (for identity reasons) be significant variation between individual subjects depending on their human forms and behaviors (meaning, I like Anthony's idea of how your inner nature affects your transformed shape).

I like all the detail you've gone into regarding how the muscles would change when one shifts. Interesting points and ideas, and well explained, too.

If I'm imagining what you've described right, it seems like Goldenwolf draws her werewolves in that way. I especially like how she does the hands and feet.

I have an attention to detail that can get out of hand at times. Being a career scientist/researcher doesn't help; when I explain something, I have to explain it.