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hands vs. paws
Posted: Mon Sep 26, 2005 6:34 pm
by Wolveblade
im not sure if anyone has brought this up yet but werewolf hands/paws
Would they be wolf like paws...or would they have human like fingers with long nails/ claws? Or human like hands with webbing between them and claws ? (half and half) Or would they be paws ?
Opposable thumbs ? Pads on the inside of the hand like wolf paws? Or wolf paws with opposable thumbs? Ideas suggestions comments

Posted: Mon Sep 26, 2005 6:43 pm
by Silverclaw
Well for full wolf, it would be 100% wolf paws.
For the gestalt form, I think it would be very human handish. Just furred with pads and claws. Maybe the fingers could be a little longer or shorter, but thats basiclly what I think.

Posted: Mon Sep 26, 2005 6:46 pm
by Aki
Gestalt form WWs should have Human-ish basic contruction with Paw-pads like a wolf, and nice long curved claws for rending flesh.
Perhaps a bit thicking or wider than a normal hand.
Posted: Mon Sep 26, 2005 6:50 pm
by Wolveblade
would they be more wolfish or humanish in structure
personally i think they would be a mix of both but more towards a human hand structure opposable thumb for gripping and stuff
Posted: Mon Sep 26, 2005 6:58 pm
by Black Shuck
I'm leaning that way too

Posted: Mon Sep 26, 2005 10:54 pm
by Wolfhanyou
A human hand like structure, but both wider and thicker with pads and claws. So basiclly I agree with Wolveblade
Posted: Tue Sep 27, 2005 12:23 am
by Vuldari
As a full, quadrapedal wolf, definately a PAW.
In bipedal/hybrid/"gestalt" form, I think the hands should still look very paw-like, with thick pads, but the fingers should retain the ability to bend and grip, and the thumb should be opposable.
Posted: Tue Sep 27, 2005 3:02 am
by Xodiac
I assume we're talking the humanoid half-wolf form, because a full wolf would obviously have paws.
But for a humanoid wolf, I generally think they'd have hands. Furry hands with claws, of course, and possibly paw pads (I have no strong feelings either way on that particular detail), but hands. After all, the point of the gestalt is that it has al the power and wildness of the wolf but with a human inteligence and capabilities. And one of the most basic human capabilities is the ability to hold something.
Posted: Tue Sep 27, 2005 7:18 am
by Morkulv
Claws.
Posted: Tue Sep 27, 2005 8:41 am
by 23Jarden
hand-like paws
Posted: Tue Sep 27, 2005 10:16 am
by Prowler
I quite like the hand-like paws idea as not being able to hold things would be so annoying.
Posted: Tue Sep 27, 2005 5:34 pm
by Anubis
depends on what form, wolf 100% paws gestalt human like but has pads and claws
Posted: Tue Sep 27, 2005 6:46 pm
by Shadow Wulf
Prowler wrote:I quite like the hand-like paws idea as not being able to hold things would be so annoying.
Yeah same here, how would my character will ever be able to hold a gun right and pull the trigger, with his tounge?

Posted: Wed Sep 28, 2005 6:45 am
by Figarou
Hmmmm...hands Vs paw.
A three-legged wolf walks into a saloon in the Old West. He sidles
up to the bar and announces:
"I'm lookin' for the man who shot my paw."

Posted: Wed Sep 28, 2005 10:11 am
by 23Jarden
I think he'd have more guns on him then hands to help him.

Posted: Wed Sep 28, 2005 5:44 pm
by Wolveblade
Speaking of guns and shooting them by pulling the trigger with the tounge. Lafcadio could shoot a gun with by pulling the trigger with his tounge. (Uncle Shelby's Story of Lafcadio the Lion Who Shot Back written by Shel Silverstein) Just though I would add that bit of info.

Even if he is a lion.

Posted: Wed Sep 28, 2005 5:58 pm
by Renorei
This is for gestalt:
I think the hands should grow larger, but the hand should get more 'paw-like', but should still be predominantly hand. Shorter fingers, big claws, and pads, on a predominantly human hand.
They should be dextrous enough to open doors, pull triggers, press buttons....but not play piano.
Posted: Thu Sep 29, 2005 6:55 am
by Celestialwolf
I think they should be pretty close to this(without the fire

):
Excelsia wrote:
I think the hands should grow larger, but the hand should get more 'paw-like', but should still be predominantly hand. Shorter fingers, big claws, and pads, on a predominantly human hand.
They should be dextrous enough to open doors, pull triggers, press buttons....but not play piano.
Yep.
Posted: Thu Sep 29, 2005 8:43 am
by 23Jarden
:a werewolf steps in dressed like Beatoven(SP) and plays the syphony 9
Posted: Fri Sep 30, 2005 10:49 pm
by hydrocarbon
A bunch of you have said you'd like to see the fingers shorter than that of a completely human hand. Do you mean that each individual phalange unit (fingers have 3, thumb has 2, from the knuckle - I think...) is shortened, or would you remove/fuse some to make it shorter?
I think there would be a few issues with mobility and dexterity of the fingers though, if that was the case. I mean, I look at my hand and the bones aren't that long anyway.
Posted: Fri Sep 30, 2005 11:08 pm
by Renorei
Lazywolf wrote:I think they should be pretty close to this(without the fire

):
Excelsia wrote:
I think the hands should grow larger, but the hand should get more 'paw-like', but should still be predominantly hand. Shorter fingers, big claws, and pads, on a predominantly human hand.
They should be dextrous enough to open doors, pull triggers, press buttons....but not play piano.
Yep.
I really like Goldy's hand design. However, I personally wouldn't include the pad on the wrist/forearm. I know that there's a parallel with canines, but that just seems odd to me.
Posted: Fri Sep 30, 2005 11:12 pm
by Renorei
iolarnula wrote:A bunch of you have said you'd like to see the fingers shorter than that of a completely human hand. Do you mean that each individual phalange unit (fingers have 3, thumb has 2, from the knuckle - I think...) is shortened, or would you remove/fuse some to make it shorter?
I think there would be a few issues with mobility and dexterity of the fingers though, if that was the case. I mean, I look at my hand and the bones aren't that long anyway.
Truthfully, I've never really known exactly what I meant when I said 'shorter fingers'. Thanks for bringing that up. Now that I think on it, I really don't think they should be much shorter. The fingers would plump up, and become more like the toes on a dog's foot. Therefore, the fingers would appear to be shorter, because they would be thicker. So, I don't want them to actually be shorter, I just want them to look shorter, when coupled with the other changes that I think should occur to the hand.
Posted: Sat Oct 01, 2005 10:22 am
by Wolveblade
Excelsia wrote:Lazywolf wrote:I think they should be pretty close to this(without the fire

):
Excelsia wrote:
I think the hands should grow larger, but the hand should get more 'paw-like', but should still be predominantly hand. Shorter fingers, big claws, and pads, on a predominantly human hand.
They should be dextrous enough to open doors, pull triggers, press buttons....but not play piano.
Yep.
I really like Goldy's hand design. However, I personally wouldn't include the pad on the wrist/forearm. I know that there's a parallel with canines, but that just seems odd to me.
i agree i like Goldies paws/hands
Posted: Sat Oct 01, 2005 10:32 am
by 23Jarden

wierdness I thought that pic was Kyoht's now that I think about it, it is Goldies.
Posted: Mon Oct 10, 2005 9:11 pm
by [arpegiuswolf]
I always draw them with either full human-like hands, or half and half...
the mixed one would seem easier to walk on all fours with...probably, but would be harder to do things with...while the more human-like hand would make it more difficult to walk/run on all fours...but make it easier to pick up little things and stuff....
Whee...I don't think I made much sense there...but then again...I never do...hah hah!!
