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Hurricane Wilma now most intense Atlantic storm ever

Posted: Wed Oct 19, 2005 12:08 pm
by Set
http://www.usatoday.com/weather/stormce ... htm?csp=24

The next hurricane after Wilma is going to be Greek, apparently. They're running out of names.
http://www.usatoday.com/weather/hurrica ... ames_x.htm

Wilma!!!

Posted: Sun Oct 23, 2005 2:16 pm
by Scott Gardener
Tropical Storm Alpha is expected to happen; it will miss the U.S. if all goes well, though it will make short work of several places in the Bahamas.

Wilma, however, is barrelling straight towards Florida, where people are sick and tired of hurricanes by now. Wilma is the third Category 5 in one year, and the fourth major hurricane to hit the U.S. this season. It's already pulvarized Cancun and Cozumel, Mexico, the latter having been where my son-in-law and his wife spent their honeymoon last year around this time.

Now can we start taking global warming a little more seriously? Next time someone makes a crack about "what's one degree," tell them to ask the people of New Orleans.

Re: Wilma!!!

Posted: Sun Oct 23, 2005 2:21 pm
by Lupin
Scott Gardener wrote:Now can we start taking global warming a little more seriously? Next time someone makes a crack about "what's one degree," tell them to ask the people of New Orleans.
Even the scientists say that there might a correlation between sea temperature and hurricane activity in the Atlantic basin, (that's a subject up for discussion) say that there isn't enough information to prove that it's caused by global warming. And IIRC, globally hurricane activity is on a downward trend. It's only the atlantic basin.

Re: Wilma!!!

Posted: Sun Oct 23, 2005 4:27 pm
by Jamie
Lupin wrote:
Scott Gardener wrote:Now can we start taking global warming a little more seriously? Next time someone makes a crack about "what's one degree," tell them to ask the people of New Orleans.
Even the scientists say that there might a correlation between sea temperature and hurricane activity in the Atlantic basin, (that's a subject up for discussion) say that there isn't enough information to prove that it's caused by global warming. And IIRC, globally hurricane activity is on a downward trend. It's only the atlantic basin.
No, globally it is up. Furthermore, scientific proof requires VAST amounts of data and goes far beyond the standards of courtroom proof. By the time you can be absolutely sure about something, when dealing with limited data and a complex system like the weather in which it is inherently hard to prove anything, it may very well be too late.
Lately, scientists have been paying more attention to a principle called the precautionary principle. This means that, if you think you might be doing something dangerous, you don't wait until you're absolutely certain you've royally screwed things up before doing something about it.
Besides, when dealing with scientific proof, you have to be careful about a stance that gives one side the status of "true" until it is disproved, because this means that one side of a debate is given an unfair advantage. In some situations, you might be decades away from gathering enough information to scientificly prove your case one way or another, but that doesn't mean that you should cling to a traditional viewpoint or refuse to use your common sense if something is probably wrong but can't be absolutely proved.

Re: Wilma!!!

Posted: Sun Oct 23, 2005 7:05 pm
by Lupin
Jamie wrote: No, globally it is up. Furthermore, scientific proof requires VAST amounts of data and goes far beyond the standards of courtroom proof. By the time you can be absolutely sure about something, when dealing with limited data and a complex system like the weather in which it is inherently hard to prove anything, it may very well be too late.
I just checked, it isn't. If you look at http://www.nhc.noaa.gov/pastdec.shtml you'll notice that the number of storms is down for the past few decaades. And:

And from http://www.time.com/time/archive/previe ... 37,00.html
Kerry Emanuel wrote:Globally, we do not see any increase at all in the frequency of hurricanes.

Posted: Mon Oct 24, 2005 12:29 pm
by Set
Here's another article about Wilma:
http://www.usatoday.com/weather/stormce ... htm?csp=24

She's a record breaker.
Hurricane Wilma sets records for tropical cyclone activity in the Atlantic basin:

Wilma is the 21st named storm of the season. The formation of Tropical Storm Alpha, the 22nd named storm, broke the previous record of 21 tropical storms or hurricanes in a season. The previous record was set in 1933.

Wilma became the 12th hurricane of the season, tying the previous mark set in 1969.

Wilma came ashore as a Category 3 hurricane with winds of 125 mph. This is the fourth major hurricane (Cat 3 or stronger) to make U.S. landfall this season. This has never happened before—hurricane record keeping goes back to 1851. Previous years with 3 major landfalling hurricanes were 2004, 1954, 1933, 1909 and 1893.

(Source: Stu Ostro, The Weather Channel)

Posted: Mon Oct 24, 2005 12:37 pm
by Shadow Wulf
How can they be running out of names all of a sudden?

Posted: Mon Oct 24, 2005 1:54 pm
by Lupin
The list of names is made way in advance and, they skip letters, this is why there's no X, Y or Z.

Posted: Mon Oct 24, 2005 2:22 pm
by Shadow Wulf
they must have skipped several names from the other letters cause I know theres alot more names than there have been in hurricanes

Posted: Mon Oct 24, 2005 2:29 pm
by Figarou
Why do they give hurricanes a name instead of a number? It'll be a lot easier to know how many hurricanes we had for that year.

Posted: Mon Oct 24, 2005 2:37 pm
by Lupin
Because it's easer to put on insurance clames and things like that.

Posted: Mon Oct 24, 2005 8:41 pm
by Darkmoon
POOO!! Wilma killed my Christmas vacation area!! (Cancun)! :( We were going to have a family reunion vacation there...but our hotel is underwater...darn..that's a couple 1,000$ down the drain...(no pun intended) :roll:

Posted: Mon Oct 24, 2005 10:53 pm
by Renorei
There is little to nothing we can do about 'global warming'. Volcanoes do more damage than we do, anyway. Also, the earth's temperature goes in cycles. It gets hot, then cools down to an ice age, then heats up again. Right now, we are at the hot part. It may be the peak, or it may get hotter. But, eventually it will begin to cool. The pollution that we have made may have expedited the warming process slightly, but all we really did was speed up the inevitable. Sure, it got hot faster, but either way, it still would have happened.

This is not to say that I am in favor of pollution. I know it still does a lot of damage to wildlife, etc. But, it's hardly the only culprit in the warming of the earth. Whether we polluted or not, it still would have happened.

Posted: Tue Oct 25, 2005 3:44 pm
by Koshaw
North east prepares as Wilma combines with two other storms, becomes Voltron.

http://abcnews.go.com/US/Weather/story?id=1247044

O_o

Posted: Tue Oct 25, 2005 4:04 pm
by Figarou
Koshaw wrote:North east prepares as Wilma combines with two other storms, becomes Voltron.

http://abcnews.go.com/US/Weather/story?id=1247044

O_o
Becomes Voltron? Heh...I wonder if the weatherman will actually say that. :D

Posted: Tue Oct 25, 2005 4:17 pm
by Koshaw
Doubtful but is funny still!



Wilma: "And I'll form the head!!!"

Posted: Tue Oct 25, 2005 4:18 pm
by Figarou
Koshaw wrote:Doubtful but is funny still!



"And I'll form the head!!!"
LOL!!! :lol:

Posted: Tue Oct 25, 2005 4:20 pm
by Lupin
Aww, and I was going to ask which storm formed the head, too.

Posted: Tue Oct 25, 2005 4:22 pm
by Figarou
Lupin wrote:Aww, and I was going to ask which storm formed the head, too.
Nevermind that. I'm wondering about the Blazing sword!! :o :lol:

Posted: Wed Oct 26, 2005 4:36 pm
by Scott Gardener
Actually, it sounds more like they merged to become Devistator.

Posted: Thu Oct 27, 2005 5:48 am
by Figarou
Scott Gardener wrote:Actually, it sounds more like they merged to become Devistator.

Its Devastator. :D

Posted: Thu Oct 27, 2005 8:57 pm
by Scott Gardener
What's the next disaster? Planet Unicron shows up and devours Cybertron? Or, we could go with the Daily Show's prediction, giant ants.

Posted: Fri Oct 28, 2005 2:01 am
by TrotFox
Don't worry about the ants... They have to munch through Iraq first. It'll be a while before we have to call in the Orkin man...

Trot, the fox who's alergic to ant stings..! = O

Posted: Fri Oct 28, 2005 11:26 am
by Koshaw
This does NOT look good for Florida :P

http://www.weatherunderground.com/tropi ... climo.html

Beta test runs

Posted: Fri Oct 28, 2005 1:08 pm
by Scott Gardener
AAAAHHH!!! There's a Beta!?! We're going to start seeing some meteorologists with drinking problems...