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"Thriller": Werecat or Werewolf?

Posted: Tue Nov 01, 2005 10:35 pm
by Jamie
In the Michael Jackson "Thriller" music video, I've heard a number of different opinions about the creature he turns into. Mostly, it is listed as a werewolf, but it has some feline qualities and I've heard a number of people (including a couple of books) call it a werecat.
What do you think it is?

Posted: Tue Nov 01, 2005 10:36 pm
by Akela
It's sad to say but... I haven't the faintest of what you are referring to. A link would prove to be immensely helpful.

Posted: Tue Nov 01, 2005 10:42 pm
by Jamie
You can look at the IMDB page for "Thriller" to refresh your memory. I think nearly everyone has seen this, since it is one of the most famous music videos of all time (on a lot of "top 100" lists, even though it is old).

Posted: Tue Nov 01, 2005 10:46 pm
by Akela
That was before my time, never seen it, no link a viewable movie there though. : (

Posted: Tue Nov 01, 2005 11:03 pm
by PariahPoet
I don't want to associate Michael Jackson with myself so I'm saying a really funky werewolf.

Posted: Tue Nov 01, 2005 11:24 pm
by Silverclaw
From what I remember, I thought he turned into a funky werewolf. I need to watch it again to be sure though.

At this play thing I went to a couple years ago, they showed this music video. Right before Jackson transformed, he told the girl he was with 'I'm not like other guys'. Everyone then started laughing at that point :lol:

Posted: Wed Nov 02, 2005 12:10 am
by Darkmoon
http://fanlistings.piranho.com/Thriller/


Was the only pic i could find..I personally have never seen the video...so *shrug* but I can't tell what that is...surfice to say that the transformation Jackson underwent in the years following this video were much creepier than the music video will ever be... :D

Posted: Wed Nov 02, 2005 12:17 am
by Hamster
It had very long whiskers and claws so I say werecat. No, Werepanther. :wink:

Posted: Wed Nov 02, 2005 12:27 am
by Lupin
I kinda thought it was a werewolf, but I don't know.

Posted: Wed Nov 02, 2005 12:38 am
by vrikasatma
It was a werepanther. In subsequent videos he had a panther prowling around (since he also owns a tiger, I presume the panther was either his or belonged to someone he knew and grandfathered in). They played it up as if it were a classic werewolf, but if you see the sculptures to make the molds, sans hair, it's distinctly feline.

Posted: Wed Nov 02, 2005 3:58 am
by Vuldari
vrikasatma wrote:It was a werepanther. In subsequent videos he had a panther prowling around (since he also owns a tiger, I presume the panther was either his or belonged to someone he knew and grandfathered in). They played it up as if it were a classic werewolf, but if you see the sculptures to make the molds, sans hair, it's distinctly feline.
I'm suprised no one has mentioned the slotted eyes yet...a feature exclusive to felines and reptiles, if I am not mistaken.

Posted: Wed Nov 02, 2005 5:03 am
by Figarou
I always thought it was a werecat when i 1st saw it. Not sure now. :?

Posted: Wed Nov 02, 2005 5:13 am
by Morkulv
The whiskers made it look like a were-cat. :P

Posted: Wed Nov 02, 2005 9:40 am
by Terastas
Vuldari wrote:I'm suprised no one has mentioned the slotted eyes yet...a feature exclusive to felines and reptiles, if I am not mistaken.
*nods* That's the real give-away. Eyes like that are not necessarilly exclusive to felines and reptiles, but most people associate them as being a trait of felines.

Posted: Wed Nov 02, 2005 10:29 am
by Howling Fan
Okay, I'm going to end this debate right now (if you can call it that). Besides the obvious feline physical features of the beast, i.e., slitted eyes and whiskers that grow from his facial cheeks, the director himself has said in the documentary for making this video (and in subsequent interviews) that Michael does indeed turn into a wereCAT, not a werewolf. As most people know, the director of "Thriller" was John Landis, who also directed "American Werewolf in London" (as well as the comedies "Animal House" and "The Blues Brothers"). Michael specifically hired John after watching "AWIL" cos he liked the TF.

Posted: Wed Nov 02, 2005 11:29 am
by Jamie
Howling Fan wrote: the director himself has said in the documentary for making this video (and in subsequent interviews) that Michael does indeed turn into a wereCAT, not a werewolf.
Where can I see that documentary? Is it an extra on some DVD, or do I have to wait for it to be shown on TV?

Posted: Wed Nov 02, 2005 1:07 pm
by Howling Fan
I saw this documentary in Music Appreciation Class in junior high, which was about 15 years ago. I think it was simply called "The Making of Michael Jackson's 'Thriller.'" It might still be floating around somewhere at an obscure video store (you won't find it in Blockbuster, Hollywood Video, et al.). I also don't think it ever went to DVD. The funniest part of the video is when John Landis tells Jackson, "Pretend like it hurts, Michael," when he's shooting the TF scene, and Michael simply goes "Ahhhh," like a little school girl. Eventually, Landis admitted that they just completely removed his voice and substituted it with a sound effect for the beastly scream.

Posted: Wed Nov 02, 2005 1:30 pm
by Lupin
Vuldari wrote:I'm suprised no one has mentioned the slotted eyes yet...a feature exclusive to felines and reptiles, if I am not mistaken.
IIRC, foxes have vertical slits for pupils as well.

Edit:
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Posted: Wed Nov 02, 2005 1:33 pm
by Figarou
Howling Fan wrote:Okay, I'm going to end this debate right now (if you can call it that). Besides the obvious feline physical features of the beast, i.e., slitted eyes and whiskers that grow from his facial cheeks, the director himself has said in the documentary for making this video (and in subsequent interviews) that Michael does indeed turn into a wereCAT, not a werewolf. As most people know, the director of "Thriller" was John Landis, who also directed "American Werewolf in London" (as well as the comedies "Animal House" and "The Blues Brothers"). Michael specifically hired John after watching "AWIL" cos he liked the TF.

Its good to know these things.

I knew it was a werewcat from the begining.

Posted: Wed Nov 02, 2005 1:41 pm
by vrikasatma
And panthers don't have the slitted eyes. Only the small cats do.
I've seen a number of art- and movie-werewolves with the slitted eyes, most notably G'mork from Neverending Story.

Posted: Thu Nov 03, 2005 2:04 am
by Vuldari
Lupin wrote:
Vuldari wrote:I'm suprised no one has mentioned the slotted eyes yet...a feature exclusive to felines and reptiles, if I am not mistaken.
IIRC, foxes have vertical slits for pupils as well.
http://lupin.nonexiste.net/pupil17md.jpg
*cough*

...oh yeah...I knew that... Image
(Being the Vulpine Fan that I am and all)

...it just "slipped my mind"...yeah...that's it.

Like I said. "...if I am not mistaken..."

I guess I was. Image

(I have a FOX photo/poster on my wall [bigger than my WOLF one] and I've noticed the eyes before, but never really thought anything of it. I've never even remembered to implement it into any of my Fox drawings.)

Posted: Thu Nov 03, 2005 7:55 am
by Shadow Wulf
Its SUPPOSE to be a werewolf. :roll: Unfortanately they didnt add a muzzle, anyway I saw the making of the video waaaay back when I was a wee little lad, and they were talkling about the werewolf Micheal Jackson on Thriller.

Posted: Thu Nov 03, 2005 9:20 am
by Morkulv
On the set, there was a guy with a hand-pump, just pumping like hell (thats the part of the transformation were the whiskers grow out, and stuff like that). Its all done like that. :D

Posted: Thu Nov 03, 2005 9:53 am
by Lupin
Shadow Wulf wrote:Its SUPPOSE to be a werewolf. :roll:
I don't see how you can say that if the director that made the video said he turns into a werecat.

Posted: Thu Nov 03, 2005 12:57 pm
by Doruk Golcu
Image

Looks indeed pretty round... Hmmmm... Didn't know that...