Poisons (and other topics)

[Renorei]

I didn't read the whole thread, so I don't know if the matter has been resolved, but I'd like to add my comments about the originally stated issues nonetheless.

Food
IMO, a werewolf (in any form) can eat anything that a wolf or human could eat. In wolf form, they could eat as much garlic or chocolate as they want, and in human form, they could eat decaying meat. And vice versa. Same applies to gestalt. By becoming a werewolf, they gain a whole new repertoire of foods they can eat, but don't lose any of their previous diet.

Mass
In my view of werewolves, a human will gain mass when going to gestalt form, but will lose mass when going to wolf form. Conservation of mass my a**.

Color
I would think that their color vision would, simply put, be somehwere between human and wolf in gestalt, and in human and wolf forms would simply be the standard human or wolf color vision.

[Apokryltaros]

to my Knowledge thickness would not matter becouse radiation poisioning
this is the defintion: When the energy released by a radioactive element is strong enough to dislodge[...]

Ah, but to do this it actually has to get inside the body first.

Different elements decompose in different ways. Some emit alpha particles (basicaly a helium nucleus, going really really fast) which can only travel a few cm in air, and can be stopped by a sheet of paper. That dead layer of skin cells you have makes a fairly good shield too.

Others undergo beta decay emitting an electron or positron, and a(n) (anti)neutrino. Beta decay is 10x more penitrating than alpha decay, but is only 1/10th as ionizing. It can be stopped by a sheet of metal.

Still others produce gamma radiation, which is more penitrating than both alpha and beta radiation, but is less ionizing. To shield against this, we usually use something with high mass or density such as lead or concrete.

Scorpions resist radiation mostly because their exoskeletons reflect UV light, hence the reason why they "glow" when you shine a black light on them. I think cockroachs resist radiation also because their exoskeletons can reflect UV light, but I'm not sure about this: I'll need to ask one of my roach-cultivating friends to shine a black light on theirs, and see.
Deinococcus bacteria resist radiation damage because they evolved a DNA repair mechanism designed to repair DNA that was damaged through dehydration. That the mechanism could also repair radiation-induced DNA damage was a delightful bonus.
Their ability to withstand radiation was discovered in the 1950's, when scientists were experimenting with food sterilization processes that involved irradiating food.

[Figarou]

I didn't read the whole thread, so I don't know if the matter has been resolved, but I'd like to add my comments about the originally stated issues nonetheless.

Food
IMO, a werewolf (in any form) can eat anything that a wolf or human could eat. In wolf form, they could eat as much garlic or chocolate as they want, and in human form, they could eat decaying meat.

Yuck!! Do you know whats in decaying meat? Lots of bacteria and viruses. Not only that, there could be fly eggs as well. Would you eat decaying meat that way? Those fly eggs will hatch inside you.


In order to eat decaying meat, you need a strong digestive system. A Turkey Vulture happens to have that.

http://www.fundwildlife.org/preybirds_vulture.html

One unique feature about the Turkey Vulture is the ability of his digestive system to kill all bacteria and viruses found in the decaying or diseased carcasses upon which he feeds. The fecal by-product from this vulture is completely sanitized in the digestive process which prevents any further spread of bacteria or viruses to other animals. Studies are currently underway involving the Turkey Vulture's marvelous ability to disinfect carcasses of rodents who carry the deadly Hantavirus.

I don't think the werewolf's regenerative ability is strong enough to kill whats in decaying meat.

[Apokryltaros]

Do note that strong acids have this nasty tendency to kill fly eggs.
Also, decaying meat tends not to have infectious viruses in it, unless the original animal was ill with some sort of disease.

[Figarou]

Do note that strong acids have this nasty tendency to kill fly eggs.

Of course. Stomach acid can kill the fly eggs and maggots. But there is a chance that a few can survive and cause Gastroenteritis.

Also, decaying meat tends not to have infectious viruses in it, unless the original animal was ill with some sort of disease.

Yup..I agree.

[Apokryltaros]

Do note that strong acids have this nasty tendency to kill fly eggs.

Of course. Stomach acid can kill the fly eggs and maggots. But there is a chance that a few can survive and cause Gastroenteritis.

I'm thinking that you're thinking of those certain kinds of bot fly maggots that live in the host's stomach, feeding off of blood and the surface mucus of the stomach lining. You can not get those kinds of maggots unless either the adult fly personally lays the eggs in your nose, and the hatching larvae then crawl into the nasal passage, and down the esophagus, or you kill a host, and swallow the maggots from the stomach directly.
House fly maggots, and bottle fly maggots, those maggots most commonly to be found on decaying meat, can not survive prolong immersion in liquid, acid or water.
On the other hand, given as how house and bottle fly maggots live in grossly unsanitary enivironments, one would have a very strong chance of getting gastroenteritis from eating a maggot, anyhow.
Unless one were to eat maggots that are commercially raised for fish bait.
BUT I don't recommend you do that, anyhow, as there are much safer alternatives of getting extra protein in one's diet, anyhow.
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The biggest danger of eating decaying meat isn't so much of dangerous bacteria, it's the toxins produced by the bacteria that pose the greatest threat.
I once heard about this one guy who discovered (whilst he was in the grips of cancer) that once decayed meat has reached a certain age, the bacteria will have all died, and the toxins of the bacteria will have broken down, and the food is safe to eat again.
I repeat: there are much safer alternatives of getting extra proteins in one's diet.
And more sanitary ways, too.

[Lupin]

I once heard about this one guy who discovered (whilst he was in the grips of cancer) that once decayed meat has reached a certain age, the bacteria will have all died, and the toxins of the bacteria will have broken down, and the food is safe to eat again.

Somehow I doubt that it tastes very good at all by that point.

[Figarou]

I once heard about this one guy who discovered (whilst he was in the grips of cancer) that once decayed meat has reached a certain age, the bacteria will have all died, and the toxins of the bacteria will have broken down, and the food is safe to eat again.

Somehow I doubt that it takes very good at all by that point.

takes? You mean tastes?

And it'll be leathery as well.

[Apokryltaros]

Somehow I doubt that it tastes very good at all by that point.

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And it'll be leathery as well.

Actually, from what I could tell, it was all pink and mushy.

[dnl]

gastroenteritis better know as the stomach flu it may last for 1 to 10 days not much more than that. yes very lithel indeed. There only one way to survie it is if -if- you can find some water to drink or oral rehydration solution.

Food poisoning meby.."If you are found to have the infection, you will likely recover on your own without treatment within 2-5 days. Drink plenty of fluids to prevent becoming dehydrated."

not many deadly food poisoning bacterium for a healthy person except for
botulinum which is rarey. just drink water mostly.


on a side note:maggots are some times used by doctores to clean out wounds.

[Lupin]

Somehow I doubt that it tastes very good at all by that point.

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And it'll be leathery as well.

Actually, from what I could tell, it was all pink and mushy.

Why am I not suprised?

[Searif]

poisons to werewolves would probly be quite intresting, ofter there is silver, liquified silver(mercury even?) would would very good especially if you hit a vein. but like with alot of legends there is always things you can believe and things you can say "what the hell" to, such as the garlic, vampires if they ever do walk this land(and if they do now without us knowing) would more then likely not be very much harmed from garlic, maybe if its consumed but other then most likely no

but back to the topic, to the touch I would say that silver would not hurt werewolves but like before if it comes in contact with inner-organs/veins or consumed(how ever way that may be) it would more then likely harm them more then normal weapons

then their is the "five point star" legend where a five point star is supposed to make a werewolf become unable to move and hopeless, there for allowing for quick execution, this may have been originally started by many groups of religion, maybe even pagans or wiccans considering their symbol of protection is a five pointed star standing for fire, water, air, earth and spirit(did I get that right)

[dnl]

liquified silver(mercury even?)

Mythically, silver nitrate was used as a method of killing vampires, with the silver nitrate generally being injected into a bullet cartridge or used in a hypodermic needle.
silver nitrate would almost defently be poisons to werewolve it is a cauterizing agent but also a Corrosive one.
pulled this off net.

Inhalation:
Extremely destructive to tissues of the mucous membranes and upper respiratory tract. Symptoms may include burning sensation, coughing, wheezing, laryngitis, shortness of breath, headache, nausea and vomiting. May be absorbed into the body following inhalation with symptoms paralleling those from ingestion exposure. Dust deposits in the lungs may resemble a form of pneumoconiosis.
Ingestion:
Corrosive. Swallowing can cause severe burns of the mouth, throat, and stomach. Can cause sore throat, vomiting, diarrhea. Poison. Symptoms include pain and burning in the mouth, blackening of the skin and mucous membranes, throat, and abdomen, salivation, vomiting of black material, diarrhea, collapse, shock, coma and death.
Skin Contact:
Corrosive. Symptoms of redness, pain, and severe burn can occur.
Eye Contact:
Corrosive. Can cause blurred vision, redness, pain, severe tissue burns and eye damage.

and mercury is a heavy metal that can fuss out of the blood stream.

[Aki]

So, more or less, silver nitrate would be lethal to just about anyone.

[dnl]

I had do this. "Ding ding ding and we have a winner god" Bruce Allmight

[Figarou]

Somehow I doubt that it tastes very good at all by that point.

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And it'll be leathery as well.

Actually, from what I could tell, it was all pink and mushy.

Why am I not suprised?

I am. (Yuck)

[Apokryltaros]

Somehow I doubt that it tastes very good at all by that point.

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And it'll be leathery as well.

Actually, from what I could tell, it was all pink and mushy.

Why am I not suprised?

I am. (Yuck)

And the lesson is for today is
A) Fly larvae won't grow in your stomach unless their life cycle says so
B) Never eat fly-blown food period
and most importantly,
C) FIGAROU: THROW OUT THAT MYSTERY MEAT IN YOUR REFRIDGERATOR

[Figarou]

And the lesson is for today is
A) Fly larvae won't grow in your stomach unless their life cycle says so
B) Never eat fly-blown food period
and most importantly,
C) FIGAROU: THROW OUT THAT MYSTERY MEAT IN YOUR REFRIDGERATOR

What mystery meat? I eat out.

[Lupin]

A) Fly larvae won't grow in your stomach unless their life cycle says so

What about watermellon seads

[Apokryltaros]

A) Fly larvae won't grow in your stomach unless their life cycle says so

What about watermelon seeds

Watermelon seeds die when immersed in acid.
Fun fact about watermelons: they were brought to China from Africa during the 12th century, and have become the second most beloved squash in Chinese culture (3rd and 1st are the pumpkin and bottle gourd, respectively).
Many anthropologists familiar with Chinese culture jokingly suggest that a skull can be determined if it's Chinese or not by checking for the distinctive groove in the incisors made from a lifetime of cracking watermelon seeds.

[Figarou]

A) Fly larvae won't grow in your stomach unless their life cycle says so

What about watermelon seeds

Watermelon seeds die when immersed in acid.
Fun fact about watermelons: they were brought to China from Africa during the 12th century, and have become the second most beloved squash in Chinese culture (3rd and 1st are the pumpkin and bottle gourd, respectively).
Many anthropologists familiar with Chinese culture jokingly suggest that a skull can be determined if it's Chinese or not by checking for the distinctive groove in the incisors made from a lifetime of cracking watermelon seeds.

You should know some animals are "seed-dispersers." A fruit bat is one. Also a fox can be one.

http://www.sandiegozoo.org/animalbytes/t-bat.html

Fruit— Fruit-eaters are drawn by the smell of ripe fruit and are important seed-dispersers. Some seeds will not sprout unless they have passed through a bat’s digestive system. Bats are a crucial resident of healthy rain forest habitats. At the San Diego Zoo, the fruit bats are fed nectar and a variety of juicy fruits, including oranges, pears, grapes, and watermelon, as well as bananas and a bat pellet (to supplement their nutritional needs).

Now imagine a werewolf as a "seed-disperser."

[Apokryltaros]

You should know some animals are "seed-dispersers." A fruit bat is one. Also a fox can be one.

That's true, but we humans aren't the natural dispersers of watermelon seeds.
And fruit bats tend to squeeze out the juice from the fruit they eat, and spit out the pulp and seeds, rather than let it go through their digestive tract, so as to weigh them down.

[Silverclaw]

One thing for a ww to worry about: getting worms
Its gonna happen soon or later if ya eat raw deer and bunnies

Also, they most likely wont be tempted to eat decaying meat lying around. Fresh is prefered

[Set]

One thing for a ww to worry about: getting worms

You don't have to be a werewolf to worry about that...

[Shadow Wulf]

Oh god, my dog had worms and when we were trying to figure out which kind it is we saw some human pics with some unexpected suprise.