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Pong

Posted: Thu Jan 12, 2006 7:33 pm
by WereDog
anyone played this game? its quite good.

what it lacks in graphics and sound it makes up for with great replayability.

Posted: Thu Jan 12, 2006 11:34 pm
by Vuldari
Classic...classic game. Image

I had an original, stand alone, vintage "Pong" machine at one time...but I think my parents sold it. It just vanished one day, and they swore they didn't know what happened to it.

...riiiiigghhht...


Pong is good, but the best, simple, old school videogame is undoubtably "Tetris".

Tetris is the worlds one and only "Perfect" videogame. Infinate replayability...easy to learn and play, and yet allways challenging no matter how good you are. (It is allways possible to get a higher score). Even people who claim they "hate" videogames, play (or have played) Tetris.

"BreakOut"/"Arkanoid" was pretty good too. (Basically one player pong)

Posted: Fri Jan 13, 2006 2:46 am
by white
I'm still going for nethack as the most replayable oldschool game.

Posted: Fri Jan 13, 2006 2:54 am
by Lupin
I'm going to have to go with Vuldari and say breakout and/or Tetris.

Posted: Fri Jan 13, 2006 3:02 am
by Renorei
In order for a game to be replayable for me, it has to be mentally stimulating. Lining up colored shapes into certain spots or hitting a ball back and forth can only amuse me for so long. So, for me, tetris and pong aren't replayable at all.

Posted: Fri Jan 13, 2006 3:03 am
by white
But you can't beat an emu to death with the corpse of a gecko in tetris.

Posted: Fri Jan 13, 2006 3:11 am
by Lupin
Ralith wrote:But you can't beat an emu to death with the corpse of a gecko in tetris.
No, but several of its subproblems are NP-complete.

Posted: Fri Jan 13, 2006 3:15 am
by Figarou
Vuldari wrote:Classic...classic game.
With the next generation games around the corner, I say: antique.

Posted: Fri Jan 13, 2006 12:53 pm
by Set
Yeah, I'm old enough to remember Pong.

Posted: Fri Jan 13, 2006 2:58 pm
by Lupin
Set wrote:Yeah, I'm old enough to remember Pong.

er... Pong proper came out in the mid-70's, variations on the game are older than that.

Posted: Fri Jan 13, 2006 3:03 pm
by Vuldari
Figarou wrote:
Vuldari wrote:Classic...classic game.
With the next generation games around the corner, I say: antique.
In that case...

"Classical" Image


As for Tetris having no replay value...

Many newer, more complex games are spectacular the first time through, but progressively less exiting the second and third times because you allready know what will happen next.

...with Tetris, you know how it will end before you even start. ...you will Lose...eventually. Yet...that does not matter. Tetris is all about the journey, and not the destination. ...and when you make it to the high-speed levels, I would have to say that Tetris is VERY mentally stimulating. You have to think very, very fast.

But to each their own, I suppose.

Tetris does not requite one to have a twisted sense of humor, or a violent streak. It by-passes all language, culture and theme barriers by not being a virtual simulation of ANYTHING. It is just pure gameplay. Simple...but nearly Perfect. IMHO

ON the other hand, if acting out your twisted, or just mischevious sense of humor is the main reason why you play videogames in the first place, I can definately see how a "mischief-proof" game like Tetris or Arkanoid/Breakout would seem insufferably boring.

...again..."to each thier own".

Posted: Fri Jan 13, 2006 3:14 pm
by Lupin
Vuldari wrote:...with Tetris, you know how it will end before you even start. ...you will Lose...eventually. Yet...that does not matter. Tetris is all about the journey, and not the destination. ...and when you make it to the high-speed levels, I would have to say that Tetris is VERY mentally stimulating. You have to think very, very fast.
Yep, even a perfect player is destined to lose:

http://www2.math.uic.edu/~burgiel/Tetri ... ation.html

Posted: Fri Jan 13, 2006 4:13 pm
by Renorei
It's not that I don't think Tetris has replay value, it just doesn't have replay value for me. I've just never liked it. I like games that have fun characters and plot twists and new worlds to explore. Like Banjo-Kazooie, the Zelda games, most of the Mario games, Pokemon, etc. I even like your occasional shoot-em-up game if it's not overly bloody. Racing games are pretty cool too. Anyway, sorry for not liking Tetris. But I have to agree with you, it is perfect. Not fun (at least not for me), but perfect nonetheless.

Posted: Fri Jan 13, 2006 4:15 pm
by Set
Lupin wrote:
Set wrote:Yeah, I'm old enough to remember Pong.

er... Pong proper came out in the mid-70's, variations on the game are older than that.
What's your point youngin?