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Would werewolves be able to read in wolf or gestalt forms ?

Posted: Sat Mar 18, 2006 7:07 pm
by garouda
The same virus that changes the shape of bones, increases and decreases certain senses, may also have an affect on the WW in different forms.

Portions of the brain, of which the mind is a feature, might be both enhanced and repressed. Wild wolves have no need to process images in the fashion that permits humans to read. And yet while their vision is not so hot, their sense of hearing and smell is superb. So, even if the basic intelligence and personality is relatively intact, I pose the following question:

Will werewolves be able to read or write in their wolf and gestalt forms and why ?

Posted: Sat Mar 18, 2006 8:35 pm
by Terastas
If the wolf brain does not recognize something, then the human brain should have full comprehension. It'd be more likely that the wolf instincts would interfere with a human's comprehension when it is applicable, so since the wolf brain has no need for written language, the human brain can focus with no conflicting signals.

Writing, on the other hand, is a different story. I suppose a wolf or gestalt could theoretically write, but no doubt it would take a lot of practice readjusting to the shape of their gestalt hand/paw, or worse, holding a writing utensil in the full wolf's teeth. It's possible that they could with practice, but I imagine most people woudn't have the patience to relearn a basic skill all over again.

Re: Would werewolves be able to read in wolf or gestalt form

Posted: Sat Mar 18, 2006 8:50 pm
by Lupin
garouda wrote:Portions of the brain, of which the mind is a feature, might be both enhanced and repressed. Wild wolves have no need to process images in the fashion that permits humans to read.
Most of that image processing is pattern recognition, which brains are good at. Both recognizing words and comprehending language is a learned abilitly, so I would say as long as their mind is intact, they shouldn't have any problems reading.

In gestalt form writing would probably be easier with those big pencils you used in elementary school.

Posted: Mon Mar 20, 2006 6:03 pm
by Scott Gardener
Destroying and re-creating a brain would require a bit more than a scientific / virus approach. Even temporarily compressing the information into an archive of neuron clusters is weird enough that you might as well keep the speech centers, reading centers, and so forth of the brain intact, and have fun trying to talk with a muzzle and squint to read with nearsighted wolfy eyes that sees "31" instead of "87" on the color-blind test pizzas.

Posted: Tue Mar 21, 2006 5:47 pm
by Timber-WoIf
So long as the human side is still concious, then i cant see any reason why not...

Posted: Tue Mar 21, 2006 6:23 pm
by garouda
Timber-WoIf wrote:So long as the human side is still concious, then i cant see any reason why not...
What if in Gestalt or Werewolf forms, one suffered from dyslexia ?

Posted: Tue Mar 21, 2006 10:25 pm
by Scott Gardener
This is your brain... This is your brain in wolf form... Any questions?

--Partnership for a drug-Freeborn America

Posted: Tue Mar 21, 2006 10:49 pm
by Figarou
Scott Gardener wrote:This is your brain... This is your brain in wolf form... Any questions?

--Partnership for a drug-Freeborn America

where's the picture of the frying egg?

:jester:

Posted: Wed Mar 22, 2006 2:15 am
by Lupin
Couldn't get to the store to pick one up :P

Posted: Wed Mar 22, 2006 4:50 am
by JoshuaMadoc
I'd say that your muzzle could get in the way in hybrid form when reading, so, like, you'd need to tilt your head down a bit to read stuff.

Posted: Wed Mar 22, 2006 1:21 pm
by Set
kitetsu wrote:I'd say that your muzzle could get in the way in hybrid form when reading, so, like, you'd need to tilt your head down a bit to read stuff.
I don't think that would even factor in, because I don't think a werewolf could see its nose. There's a definate advantage to not having part of your vision blocked.

I don't see any reason why they couldn't read.

Posted: Wed Mar 22, 2006 3:56 pm
by Renorei
Set wrote:
kitetsu wrote:I'd say that your muzzle could get in the way in hybrid form when reading, so, like, you'd need to tilt your head down a bit to read stuff.
I don't think that would even factor in, because I don't think a werewolf could see its nose. There's a definate advantage to not having part of your vision blocked.

I don't see any reason why they couldn't read.

Mmm...I think they could probably see their noses. After all, I can see my nose, and it's much smaller than a muzzle.

But, I do agree with Set that I don't think it'd be much of a problem. I only see my nose if I make a conscious effort to cross my eyes and look downward at it, and in all other circumstances, I don't really 'see' my nose. I think a werewolf would probably be about the same way. That is, though their nose might protrude slightly into their field of vision, they wouldn't notice it unless they were trying to. I don't think the presence of a muzzle would affect their ability to read.

Posted: Wed Mar 22, 2006 8:16 pm
by Timber-WoIf
Aff, a muzzle wouldn't be a problem at all. Except to newbie werewolves mabie. But my glasses have rims, i don't "see" them, even though they are even more in my line of sight. And when you wear goggles, or a helmit, or a visor, you don't really "see" those either, unless you're really not used to it.

Posted: Thu Mar 23, 2006 8:05 am
by Shadow Wulf
How would the muzzle be a problem in reading? All you have to do is tilt your head towards the book or put the book in front of you.

Posted: Thu Mar 23, 2006 9:02 am
by Morkulv
I think not. When you brutaly transform into a werewolf, reading a book is the last thing you think about. But aside from that, I think werewolves don't have the concentration to read a book.

Posted: Thu Mar 23, 2006 9:36 am
by Kirk Hammett
I hope they could read! If I was a werewolf. Perhaps in Gestalt form they can concentrate and read, but as a wolf, maybe they're a little too scattered unless they have some sort of really strong sense of control. If they retain control, then they will have the mechanisms to also read. Well I'd think so anyway, but it is fantasy so I will vote for yes, under controlled circumstances.

A werewolf sees a 'Wanted: Vicious Wolf Dog' sign. We'd hope he or she got warning :lol:

Unless they were evil humans who took pleasure in power in animal form.

Or demonic snails who preffered fur and a tail to a shell.

Posted: Thu Mar 23, 2006 9:39 am
by Morkulv
Its way to silly to see a wolf reading...

Posted: Thu Mar 23, 2006 1:42 pm
by garouda
Morkulv wrote:Its way to silly to see a wolf reading...
As if werewolves as a concept in and of themselves is not in the least little bit silly ?

Posted: Thu Mar 23, 2006 2:37 pm
by Set
Morkulv wrote:But aside from that, I think werewolves don't have the concentration to read a book.
So you're saying all werewolves have ADD? Why do you...Oooh, a penny!

Posted: Thu Mar 23, 2006 5:28 pm
by Timber-WoIf
Set wrote:...Oooh, a penny!
Yea, I noticed that too.

Posted: Thu Mar 23, 2006 7:52 pm
by Apokryltaros
Timber-WoIf wrote:
Set wrote:...Oooh, a penny!
Yea, I noticed that too.
What kind of penny?
Water penny?
Image

Posted: Fri Mar 24, 2006 12:39 am
by vrikasatma
I don't see why they shouldn't. Keep in mind that werewolves ARE NOT wolves. A wolf can't read, a werewolf could. (Or should...in this country six adults in ten can't read above the second-grade reading level and two in ten can't read at all) :read2:

Posted: Fri Mar 24, 2006 12:52 am
by Apokryltaros
vrikasatma wrote:I don't see why they shouldn't. Keep in mind that werewolves ARE NOT wolves. A wolf can't read, a werewolf could. (Or should...in this country six adults in ten can't read above the second-grade reading level and two in ten can't read at all) :read2:
What if the words were red, on green paper?

Posted: Fri Mar 24, 2006 1:15 am
by garouda
Apokryltaros wrote:
vrikasatma wrote:I don't see why they shouldn't. Keep in mind that werewolves ARE NOT wolves. A wolf can't read, a werewolf could. (Or should...in this country six adults in ten can't read above the second-grade reading level and two in ten can't read at all) :read2:
What if the words were red, on green paper?
That would pose a problem under full spectrum light. Under filtered red, or filtered green light, the shades of gray should be different enough to read.

Posted: Fri Mar 24, 2006 1:45 am
by vrikasatma
If the words were red on green paper, I think EVERYONE, human, werewolf or otherwise, would have a problem reading them :wink: