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Cathey and I prepared by moving away from the coast. Unfortunately, I know many people can't do that. For example, many of you have to wait until you're old enough to live on your own, and convincing parents isn't always easy.

So far, this season hasn't been anything like the last two--though China got at least one big hit by a typhoon already. Hopefully our luck will hold out, and the rest of this year will go by without any further damage.

Its times like these that I wish I lived in Central US.

ehh...what happens happens..........im not to concerned.........me and my associates have contingency plans for stuff like this

bad things are always going to happen. No point in worrying yourself to death. Just do what you can to prepare, then go on with your life.

We got lucky so far, real lucky, all the hurricances that past over Zephyrhills did very minimal damage.

Well, I'm lucky. I live north of philadelphia. That means that not only am I somewhat inland, but since were'e on one of the the highest pieces of land and higher than almost all of philadelphia, we're safe from all flooding. Standing water in our basement means downtown philly is fifty feet underwater.

Hurricanes are gonna hit...

Did anyone read the october 2001 Scientific American article on how New Orleans was screwed in the event of a hurricane?

bad things are always going to happen. No point in worrying yourself to death. Just do what you can to prepare, then go on with your life.

I agree. You can't do everything in life, and living in a danger zone is just that. People have been farming the slopes of Mt. Vesuvius for thousands of years.

Shadow Wulf wrote:We got lucky so far, real lucky, all the hurricances that past over Zephyrhills did very minimal damage.

Iam in the same boat SW, but if you live in teh central US you risk tornados

Everywhere you go you risk something my friends...Its the fact of life, if you have noticed....we've survived for thousands of years through multipal stuff like this...and yet we are still here

Id rather the slim chance of a hurricane then the sudden appearance of a tornando. Hurricanes give longer warnings.

And the hurricanes are just gonna get worse and worse. The year before Katrina, we thought the one that hit Florida was bad. If the earth is really getting warmer, that means stronger and more frequent hurricanes.

I have the most fears of hurricane. When there one comes, I panic like crazy. It happens to me when I was in Florida 9 years ago and I was very panic about it. So I'm never ready for hurricane.

strykeriuswolf wrote:Everywhere you go you risk something my friends...Its the fact of life, if you have noticed....we've survived for thousands of years through multipal stuff like this...and yet we are still here

Fenrir wrote:

Shadow Wulf wrote:We got lucky so far, real lucky, all the hurricances that past over Zephyrhills did very minimal damage.

Iam in the same boat SW, but if you live in teh central US you risk tornados

Their was this article a while back on the front page asking. "Are their really any safe places to live in?" and it showed Tornadoes, lighting, Hurricanes, earthquakes.

while the US is getting hurracanes, We down here in Australia are suffering the biggest case of drought.

you gotta blame global warming for this.

Max Mayfield, director of the U.S. National Hurricane Center, says there’s plenty of potential for a storm worse than Hurricane Katrina, which killed 1,339 people along the U.S. Gulf coast and caused some $80 billion in damage last August.

Orleans was a disaster because of more than just a hurricane. Its position and geography, the government...etc...

Yeah our drought is horrible. The wheatbelt really needs some rain. Those farmers are forced to work labour for the government, they are paid well, but it means their farm goes to waste. Nothing we can do...desalinisation plants make global warming worse. And the Water Corp. thinks that they have all these ideas and they advertise it. Guess what, they don't have many ideas, if they did, we'd be floating.

I thought hurricanes were on a 1500 year cycle of how deadly they were?

Also global warming is responsible for the fact that we're not in an ice age. I recall seeing an article on that.

Kzinistzerg wrote:I thought hurricanes were on a 1500 year cycle of how deadly they were?

Also global warming is responsible for the fact that we're not in an ice age. I recall seeing an article on that.

We don't have any complete data on hurricanes before the 1950's/1960's, so it's not suprising that we're wrong a lot.

Kzinistzerg wrote:I thought hurricanes were on a 1500 year cycle of how deadly they were?

Also global warming is responsible for the fact that we're not in an ice age. I recall seeing an article on that.

Itll be the reason we go INTO an ice age, eventually, too. Melts the ice, changes the salinity gradients, anyone seen Day After Tomorrow? It has SOME truth to it. Just not so exaggerated. Anyhow so the sea currents will change, this in turn changes the world's weather patterns...etc. Water begins locking up again...

And Australia gets even WORSE droughts. Bleh we can't win.

Those of you on the coast might want to watch out for Ernesto. They're saying it might become a hurricane.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/14512639/

And is it just me, or are the storm names alot more Spanish this year?

They are using latin words now cause they ran out all of todays ( American) names pretty much.

1, my whole family and I know this but we cant move on a dime contray to popular belief(it costs alot to move people!)
2. were trying to move to SC so far it looks like we could be doing it next year.

I'm not sure this will make you feel better or worse, but here goes. Some of the greatest catastrophies in pre-history:

The biggest catastrophe so far known in the history of the solar system appears to be some 4 billion years ago when the planet Uranus was in essence destroyed. Its remnants fell back together over time, re-forming the planet. That's why it's practically sideways.

According to currently favored theories, the biggest catastrophe in Earth history was also about 4 billion years ago, when a Mars-sized body collided with it, spewing out matter that coallesed in orbit to become the Moon. The existance of the Moon has been credited as essential for evolution of life as we know it, so this disaster gave us not only something to howl at or for Pagans to draw down on mystical occasions, but it also gave us us ourselves.

The Sun was 1/3 cooler back in 4,000,000,000 BCE. But, Earth itself was a lot hotter, and the collision with another planet (which was demolished in the process, though pieces got incorporated into both Earth and the Moon) heated things up further. None the less, by about 1.6 billion BCE, the Earth was covered in glaciers. According to the "snowball Earth theory," glaciers may have joined at the equator and coated the Earth under miles of ice. Even if this weren't the case, geology indicates that northern and southern glaciers came close. Life on Earth was still mostly bacterial, and there was very little oxygen in the atmosphere. These little bugs were our ancestors, and they held out for millions of years before the gradual expansion of the Sun caught up and warmed the planet enough for the Cambrian era evolutionary explosion to occur.

The end of the Permian was probably the closest call since then. There are many theories as to what happened, but the leading is a combination of events that lead to a sudden global warming by about five degrees C, that brought about climate changes that killed off more than half of all species, but lead to a flourishing of oceanic bacteria, which produced sulfurous gases that further heated the Earth by about another five degrees C. The net result was the death of more than 95% of all species. Before, Earth was populated by a wide variety of organisms, nearly all of which are now gone forever. For about 50,000 years, fungi were the dominant life forms of the planet.

We all know about the extinction of the dinosaurs. That catastrophe, as horrific as it was, the Permean extinction was worse. We've also heard about the various ice ages. But, the woolly mammoth days were child's play compared to the days when Earth was less inhabitable than Hoth from The Empire Strikes Back.

You know a comment about global warming would be inevitable at this point. You get the idea, so I'll save it for now. Suffice it to say, we're already one degree warmer; we've got nine to go, and the bacteria of the ocean today are essentially the same as the ones alive during the late Permean, that flourished while the rest of the world nearly died.

Hmm...

What Scott says is well written ('Fraid I cannot compare). After reading that, has anybody heard of the theory that animals are at their peak and will go extinct soon? Animals...anything from hydra to hippo. Us.

One theory is climate change of course; prokaryotes (Bacteria etc) as Scott says are still very predominant...they're everywhere. Those that are parasites or have symbiotic relationships with animals may not survive, but those (Oh and also Archaea) that are okay by themselves or in their colonies will survive a huge climate shift. They are hardy creatures. This is in the event of a giant ice age; since animals have survived many many ice ages. It'd have to be all sorts of weird climate change.

I have to write a paper on this.

If anybody knows any sources that describe the theory that animals only have a few million years left...that are peer reviewed, drop me a private message! And if I have any facts wrong let me know.

Anyway just food for thought to add to Scott's. Our Earth has the most interesting history and future.