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Facial/head structure
Posted: Sun Jan 28, 2007 12:59 pm
by Fang
Well the name says it all, what do you think the head structre should be?
Personally I'm thinking a thicker neck and lager head, with a thicker muzzle than a normal wolf
I'm sure we don't want the old Wolfman style of face either
Posted: Sun Jan 28, 2007 4:14 pm
by RedEye
I would suggest you keep the neck and head as close to"size" as you can, and add height at the forehead level. WHile the Werewolf's muzzle would be smaller and wider than a real Wolf's, you want to avoid anything that suggests a "Bear".
Your ears should be perhaps a tiny bit exaggerated and Pointed, not Rounded; this will give an optical illusion of the vertically long Wolf's head, whille making the forehead appear smaller.
You can add to the Wolf appearance with a Ruff, descending from the backs of the ears to the clavicles, in a contrasting color to your neck and body Fur.
That's my two bits...
Posted: Sun Jan 28, 2007 8:36 pm
by White Paw
not necessarily a solid muzzle bone structure but something to accomidate the constant expansion and contraction of it in the transformation and going back to the human state

Re: Facial/head structure
Posted: Sat Feb 10, 2007 5:49 am
by STARWOLF_THE_MYSTIC
Fang wrote:Well the name says it all, what do you think the head structre should be?
Personally I'm thinking a thicker neck and lager head, with a thicker muzzle than a normal wolf
I'm sure we don't want the old Wolfman style of face either
God, I hated the way the original wolfman looked.
Re: Facial/head structure
Posted: Sat Feb 10, 2007 12:10 pm
by Vuldari
STARWOLF_THE_MYSTIC wrote:Fang wrote:Well the name says it all, what do you think the head structre should be?
Personally I'm thinking a thicker neck and lager head, with a thicker muzzle than a normal wolf
I'm sure we don't want the old Wolfman style of face either
God, I hated the way the original wolfman looked.
Am I like one of four or five people in the entire Pack who actually
Likes the old classic wolfman?
...sure, I don't think of it as the gold standard or anything, and prefer more canine looking werewolves
most of the time, but even though it is not at all recognizable as a "Wolf", I still stand by the opinion that there is something inherently timeless and charismatic about the old
Fuzz-Face .
...but maybe that's just me...

Posted: Sat Feb 10, 2007 2:11 pm
by PariahPoet
Oh I like the classic wolfman too. It's not what I'd want to see with Freeborn, but it suits the old movies well enough.
Posted: Sat Feb 10, 2007 2:24 pm
by ravaged_warrior
I actually think it's pretty good, and shows an effort (check out the way they structured the muzzle to make it look more wolfish and give off an illusion of depth). It was the '40s, what do people expect? An American Werewolf in London? Either way, it was a good movie, weird looking werewolf or not.
Not so much a structural statement
Posted: Mon Mar 05, 2007 11:22 am
by Matt
I would really like to see some semblance of the human character remain even in full wolf form. Something to show at all times that (place actor's name) is still in there. I know this would be difficult because I believe that stunt doubles will be used to accomodate larger, more muscular. bodies (maybe editing is the answer). Just something subtle, a gesture or idiosyncracy shown by the actor or actress, then repeated by the WW. Or perhaps something more physical incorporated into the WW facial makeup design, which is why I brought this up on this thread. Thanks.
Posted: Mon Mar 05, 2007 5:46 pm
by Anubis
The cranium has to be larger for more gray matter, since werewolves are just as intelligent as a human is, but it would be sloped for less drag and for ascetic reasons. There has to be large muscles connected to the jaws for bite strength, articulate muscles in a thicker muzzle for human speech.
Also the spine connects to the skull at an angle. So it can move its head in a comfortable position when walking or running on 2 or 4 legs. The neck might be a little longer, so it can a wider range of movement. Also I imagine there being a large muscle connecting the skull to the top of the back so it can compensate for the weight of the muzzle. So when running the head wont bounce too much with each stride.
Posted: Sat Mar 10, 2007 1:56 pm
by Moonstalker
Generally... I almost hate the old style wolfman
I think the wolf styled head is the one which sould be in Freeborn, check out the Goldenwolf's works, you'll know what I mean

It would be...
Posted: Sat Mar 10, 2007 2:51 pm
by WereDragon25
Ok, first, I didn't understand a WORD of what RedEye said, but, the neck size would probably be about the same size as a human's. But the muzzle, it would be a bit longer than a wolf's. Probably bigger too. I think that is what it would look like.

Posted: Mon Mar 12, 2007 5:46 am
by Ranubis
Shorter muzzle than a wolf, slightly narrower head than human and ears set between the side and top of the skull. I think the eyes would have to move slightly too, to accomodate the muzzle as that would be a little wider than a nose...I agree with having a ruff too, which would sweep down from behind the ears, over the shoulders and run part way down the spine.
Posted: Fri Mar 16, 2007 2:08 am
by Silverclaw
I think of a gestalt's head to look basicaly just like a normal wolf head. Maybe a slightey broader muzzle; longer fangs, and can do better human-like expressions(slightly, not like a cartoon!). And the spine would connect a bit lower on the skull, so its better for standing upright and all

Posted: Thu Apr 12, 2007 12:57 am
by chubhound
This might not be the EXACT right place for this, but it's all I could find....so, I'm gonna bring this up. I've looked over most of the werewolf movies I have, and I noticed something. In almost all of them (Howling, Cursed, AWIL, etc....) the werewolves have a bare face. I never understood why that is. I've never seen a picture of a wolf that had a hairless muzzle/snout & face. I hope that made sense. Anyone have an idea as to why those werewolves have faces like that?
Posted: Thu Apr 12, 2007 8:48 am
by Morkulv
I'd say it should look humanish (ofcourse still in a wolf way), since I believe that werewolves are still humans.
Posted: Wed Apr 25, 2007 5:59 pm
by Rhuen
I would say the ears should be normal wolf ears and the muzzle a normal wolf muzzle for the size. the forhead should be a little larger (although this gives it a coyote effect) but is reasonable given the higher intellegence of either creature over a normal wolf.
things I have hated in werewolf movies have been overly exagerated faces that end up looking like baboons or bears.