Terastas wrote:For the last time Vuldari, I never had any problem with your opinion(s). My problem is the way you refer to your ideas and opinions as "truth" and respond with hostility towards any other alternative arguments or interpretations.
You first started flaming at the top of page three in this thread. I don't come in with my counterargument until the middle of page four.
And the original fire starter was your opinion of therians, not werewolves. You've been so hellbent on pushing your opinion as truth that you apparently don't even remember what your opinion originally was.
Figarou, whether this thread should be locked or not should be up to Dreamer and the other posters that did maintain a civil discussion, but you do have my permission. I wouldn't delete this topic though because A) The first two pages do contain some good debate, and B) If we have nothing to go on, this will inevitably happen again ("he that does not know history is doomed to repeat it" and all that).
My point was that I don't think it is appropriate to consider a Wolf Therian a Werewolf, and I presented the History and origin of the Word "Werwulf", and exaples of Combined-Words which are not interpreted the way you are trying to read "Werewolf" as the reasons. The characters in those stories were very different from what Therians supposedly are.
If you think my historical accuracy is in fault, share a Werewolf story as an example,
(preferably one that pre-dates the Internet. Cultural references obviously have more influence and significance than someones personal Fan-Fiction...otherwise you could just write the story right now out of spite, and act like it is the same thing) in which the werewolf was a person with a deep, spiritual connection with the animal they are transforming into, (like a Therian), and I my point will obviously be made void, and my "FACTS" disprooven.
However, every culturally based "Werewolf" story that I've ever heard was about people who probably couldn't care less about what specific animal they changed into, except that it had claws, teeth and ate meat.
(Native Americans and other cultures that had stories about more "Spiritual" type shapeshifters, did not call those legendary people/creatures "Werewolves". They were something else entirely. ...which is part of the point that I have been trying to make. Not every entity in the history of Myth and Legend that transformed into a wolf was a "Werwulf". I think it is foolish to call them all the same thing, because they are obviously NOT)
A "Werwulf" is a "Werwulf" ... a "Kitsune" is a "Kitsune" ... a "Totem" is a "Totem" ... a "Wendigo" is a "Wendigo" ... and a "Therian" is a "Therian".
What is the point of trying to insist that they are the same creature, and confuse everyone by calling them all the same thing?
If You say "Werewolf" and mean "Therian" or "Totem", you are being confusing to anyone who does not share your opinion.
...which makes questions like the subject of this thread nearly impossible to discuss between people of varying opinions in any kind of logical fashion.
Clearly-Defined COMMON GROUND is not 'optional' in this kind of conversation.
IMHO