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Posted: Fri Dec 28, 2007 10:08 pm
by Fyriewolf
but what if the father of the pups came near the cubs, would the mother still rip the fathers head off?

Posted: Fri Jan 25, 2008 12:26 pm
by Fyriewolf
Or would the mother let him off the hook.

Posted: Fri Jan 25, 2008 5:27 pm
by RedEye
I suspect that would be related to how much human intelligence the Female retained, as well as the father.

Humans (very oddly) enjoy passing Junior around among family and such, while a wolf mother will only allow her most trusted packmates to even see the pups when they're newborn (usually only her mate).

So; how much humanity does Mom retain? There's your answer.

Posted: Thu Feb 07, 2008 1:48 pm
by Fyriewolf
wow that makes since. but what about the runt of the litter, what would the mother anf or father wolf would do to it.

Posted: Thu Feb 07, 2008 11:37 pm
by RedEye
RedEye wrote:I suspect that would be related to how much human intelligence the Female retained, as well as the father.

Humans (very oddly) enjoy passing Junior around among family and such, while a wolf mother will only allow her most trusted packmates to even see the pups when they're newborn (usually only her mate).

So; how much humanity does Mom retain? There's your answer.
Same answer. Humans are more caring of their young, even their runts. Werewolves living in a human society would adopt human values toward their children. Wolves kill runts because they won't usually survive and yet require as much care as the healthy pups. Wolves don't have the resource net humans do.

Posted: Fri Feb 15, 2008 1:41 pm
by Fyriewolf
yea that is true. But my sister is the runt of my families werewolves litter and our paretns didn't kill her. is that normal for a werewolve mother/ father to do that?

Posted: Fri Feb 15, 2008 10:14 pm
by RedEye
Okay: This involves the resources available to the parents. In the case of limited resources, not only the runt would die, so might any pup that the parents felt they couldn't raise to self-sufficiency. Better to let that soul have another shot at a decent life than cripple it by not giving it enough to eat as an infant.
If the resources permit, then everybody gets a shot at survival.

And once again, its the degree of retained Human viewpoint that's going to make the difference.

Posted: Wed Mar 19, 2008 11:18 am
by Fyriewolf
thanks alot redeye. :howl:  :oo to ya.

Posted: Wed Mar 19, 2008 11:24 am
by WereWolfBoy
lol

Posted: Wed Mar 19, 2008 11:26 am
by Fyriewolf
Whew! amen to that :howl:  :oo :gangster:

Posted: Wed Mar 19, 2008 11:34 am
by WereWolfBoy
hmmmmmm....

Posted: Mon Mar 24, 2008 6:31 pm
by Ansuru
RedEye wrote:The mother would be best off giving birth in her Wulf form, just from watching a dog give birth to puppies you can see that there is a lot less difficulty involved than even an "easy" human birth.

Would the baby be able to Shift? I suspect that uncontrolled shifting might happen (like growing fur when said infant got cold) but there isn't a lot of extra energy available at that time of life for such activities.

I still hold out for puberty-triggered Controlled Shifting, though. Remember, at that time, the nymph-human is changing to its adult form; and controlled shifts are more adult-seeming than childlike.
I've read a few series' where werewolf females cannot carry a pregnancy to term because the Change is too harsh on their system and on the little one. Of course, one answer is to not shift during that period (if you even know about it before you miscarry *wince*), but the authors of those series' all felt the Change was something that you had to do periodically, whether it was tied to the moon or not.

I always did feel the answer to their problems was just remaining as a wolf the full time, if they could (in one such series, they tended to slip back to human form while knocked out meat drunk). Not only is the birth likely to be easier, but the gestation period is relatively shorter, too!

:femshft :lovestruck:

Posted: Mon Apr 07, 2008 8:50 am
by Scarletfox
A baby wolf, so cute! nyaaaaa

Posted: Tue Apr 08, 2008 12:09 am
by RedEye
We went over this: Basically, it's the baby that runs momma's body for nine months. The fetus is protected to the point that physically they're almost impossible to damage without gross physical damage to the mother, too.
Look it up in search, it's all there.

Posted: Tue Apr 08, 2008 1:44 am
by *nagowteena*
I would think that they are like normal babys, till they reach puberty, then they start to shift, at lest that's my thought on the matter.

Posted: Tue Apr 08, 2008 7:34 am
by Confidential
One thing that tends to confuses me...

Human - Avg. 9 months
Canines - Avg. 2 months

How come a pregnant lycanthrope has to take full 9 months just like humans? :?

Posted: Tue Apr 08, 2008 9:06 am
by Fullmoonstar

Posted: Tue Apr 08, 2008 10:50 pm
by RedEye
Confidential wrote:One thing that tends to confuses me...

Human - Avg. 9 months
Canines - Avg. 2 months

How come a pregnant lycanthrope has to take full 9 months just like humans? :?
Well, taking Fullmoonstar's answer into the mix, there's part of the thing; usually the mother's genetic structure decides how long she'll gestate. Then, too; a human baby has more stages of development to go through, so that part takes longer, too.
It might even be that a Werewolf mother-to-be takes longer than a simple human to gestate; since again, there is more development required for a metamorph than a monomorph.
There are really all sorts of possible answers; pick what works for you and stick with that.

Posted: Wed Apr 09, 2008 1:05 pm
by Ansuru
Confidential wrote:One thing that tends to confuses me...

Human - Avg. 9 months
Canines - Avg. 2 months

How come a pregnant lycanthrope has to take full 9 months just like humans? :?

Mmm...
Ansuru wrote:...

I always did feel the answer to their problems was just remaining as a wolf the full time, if they could (in one such series, they tended to slip back to human form while knocked out meat drunk). Not only is the birth likely to be easier, but the gestation period is relatively shorter, too!

:femshft :lovestruck:


:) Although Redeye has an interesting point that a werechild could actually take longer. In the end, it's down to author preference until the real 'wolves among us decide to go public so Unc'ie Sam can't blackmail them into the CIA :)

Posted: Thu Apr 10, 2008 3:35 pm
by STARWOLF_THE_MYSTIC
I think they should be the same as the mothering species

Posted: Thu Apr 10, 2008 3:44 pm
by Black Claw
I agree w/ FullMoonStar and RedEye. :howl:  :oo

Posted: Fri Apr 11, 2008 12:29 pm
by Fyriewolf
okay now I understand everything. thanks you guys. but for the pregancy months I don't get a little. to me werewolves ar emore wolves than humans. how's that possible? ??

Posted: Wed Apr 16, 2008 2:37 pm
by shiftergirl
Fyriewolf wrote:okay now I understand everything. thanks you guys. but for the pregancy months I don't get a little. to me werewolves ar emore wolves than humans. how's that possible? ??
it depend on the mothers blood, the more wolf she has the shorter the baby could grow, the more human she has the longer the baby could grow. there are other thoughts about this but that is what i believe.

Posted: Wed Apr 16, 2008 3:42 pm
by Black Claw
That is true. Like what will the baby, hair, color, eyes, height. Everything depends on the mother and the father, more the mother.

Posted: Fri Apr 18, 2008 8:25 am
by shiftergirl
correct, the father only has one part in producing a baby and he's done, but the mother has all those months to cary it around and to get set up for delivery.