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On the realness of depression: Agreed; I've seen and treated it. Oh, I'm a doctor, by the way. I doct. I'm also good with a sonic screwdriver.

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I run into two kinds of depression. There's biological depression, in which the poor person is depressed and sad no matter what is going on in life, because the brain itself is not working right. Then there is situational depression, which happens to all of us at one time or another; crappy experiences happen, and we get depressed. For treating the former, you pretty much need medicines. For the latter, medicines are a last resort, because the depression goes away when you make your life better. It's a lot harder to do that if you're doped up on tranquilizers, so I heavily discourage use of drugs like Xanax or Valium for anything but the worst of cases. The issue does get muddied, though, for people with biological depression, because people with it tend to have problems because of it, which in turn creates situational depression on top of biochemical depression; it becomes difficult knowing where one ends and the other begins.

I just can't wait until we get out of the trial-and-error chemistry days of medicine and get into the nanomolecular days of hacking the code of the brain and reprogramming ourselves. Imagine if you could decide for yourself that you wanted to be a certain way, and then you just WAS that way. Yes, yes, I know it's terribly abusable power. But, is what we're doing today any better? How many millions of lives are getting thrown away because of hardware psychiatric problems like bipolar disorder or schizophrenia going untreated? How many people must live in dire poverty before someone gets the idea that maybe giving us the power to fix our own brains might not be such a bad thing? What if we could render Alzheimer's and multi-infarct dementia obsolete and age confidently, knowing confidently that a healthy retirement awaits? (Or better yet, how about not dying at all? But, that's another futurist biotech issue.)

Ever talk to a person with bipolar disorder? The person knows he or she is surging emotionally and wants it fixed one moment, only to lapse into a ball of undirected emotion the next. They want to live better, but they can't stay off drugs or out of jail. Wouldn't it be nice to be able to fix that?

But, I'm getting off topic. The issue is Socialism versus Capitalism. Well, maybe I'm not so far off, afterall. Because, finding the right balance of the two will help us find the fastest way to get from where we are now to where we need to be. The longer we dawdle and take our time as a civilization, the more of our own people we throw away.
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outwarddoodles wrote:As a note: Depression is a real disorder, that shows real, physical affects on the brain, and is not "general unhappiness." (Not that depression isn't an easy disorder to emulate and use for worker's compensation.)
It may be a real disorder, but if you ask me, it's also overdiagnosed. With the pharmaceuticals behind them, a lot of doctors I think are way too happy to perscribe Xanax or Valium for situational depression. I mentioned anti-depressants, not to insinuate that depression is not a real medical condition, but because a lot of doctors don't differenciate between biological and situational depression, and many of the people anti-depressants are pushed upon do not need them at all.

EDIT: If you didn't believe that before, consider that the pharmaceuticals have now come out with antidepressants for cats and dogs. It's not about who needs it: it's about who's dumb enough to buy it when they don't.

Depression has essentially become a prop for the pharmaceuticals: an excuse for them to medicate people that don't need medicating. Another example of such is A.D.D. Yes, some kids have such a disorder, but at its peak, virtually every kid in America that was not doing well in school was written out a perscription for Ridalin. For every one kid that did have honest-to-God A.D.D., there were a hundred other kids on Ridalin who didn't.

I also forgot to mention sleep aids. And yes, sleeping disorders are real, but for every one person that does need them, there's about a hundred others that take them who don't need them.

And my favorite: The cure for Restless Leg Syndrome. What besides money could have convinced the pharmaceuticals that toe-tapping was a serious problem that needed to be medicated? I have that problem too sometimes, usually when I go to bed after I've had more than one Diet Coke.

There's a fine line between giving someone medical treatment and selling someone medicine. All too often, when anti-depressants are perscribed, its the latter being done.
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