How should Werewolves Be?

[Hamster]

Well I think a werewolf should look like my drawing:

http://www.deviantart.com/deviation/18795256/ - I have a couple others if you want to look.

They should look like a WEREWOLF, not a werecat, rat, bat, hat, duck whatever . I think their feet should look a little more human then a normal pawed foot.

[Aki]

yeah. the morrowind/bloodmoon werewolf also had amazing legs- somethign about jumping 100 feet ibnto the air and landing and not dying...

the mw werewolf is the first one i started drawing. it's also what i based my early drawings on. but the hunchie-ness was quite annoying.

Yeah, the MW Werewolf jumped like a freaking frog. Its crazy.

Useful though, esspecially with the style of fighting a Werewolf in MW has. The jump allowed for a quick escape. 'Course, NPCs had this bug where if the play, no matter what he had/was, jumped above them in combat, they'd spaz out and run away.

[Vuldari]

...Yeah, the MW Werewolf jumped like a freaking frog. Its crazy.

Useful though, esspecially with the style of fighting a Werewolf in MW has. The jump allowed for a quick escape. 'Course, NPCs had this bug where if the play, no matter what he had/was, jumped above them in combat, they'd spaz out and run away.

Really?...

I've never tried that. I'll have to test that "NPC's will run away if you jump over thier head" theory. The funny thing is, the way I play the game, I allways build up my character to be a super-jumper (without cheating even).

What I do is...whenever I am traveling across country from one location to another, I never Walk...I'm usually Running everywhere, (It builds up stamina quickly), and very often "hopping" for miles and miles (That earns both stamina AND Agility points), from town to town, untill I have such high AGILITY that I just jump OVER Fences, Gaps and Monsters in my way, rather than bother trying to go around them.

...BOING!...

[Lucifer]

Well in my opinion he/she should be intimidating

[Kzinistzerg]

Yeah, me too. i NEVER walk anywhere. i bounce maniacally.

[Scott Gardener]

Intimidating, but beautiful. A healthy person looks beautiful. A healthy wolf looks beautiful. There's no reason a healthy werewolf has to look butt-ugly.

There should be this alluring bipolar quality, in which you at once want to go in for a closer look and run for your life. There should be this noble quality, blatantly absent in nearly all movie werewolves to date, but present in real wolves. Do that, and intimidation should come naturally. I think people would be more intimidated by a werewolf if it were beautiful, because the sense of panic would be tempered with the confusing alternate emotion of fascination.

[Lucifer]

Have you ever heard of beauty and the beast? Id rather be the beast. Besides I've had more women tell me how sexy this character is. I think the werewolves in Dog Soldiers were alot like what you just described.
The heads loooked like a modern wolf and the bodies were more human.
My favorite werewolf was the one in Bad Moon I would just like to see it in black fur.

[Kzinistzerg]

Intimidating, but beautiful. A healthy person looks beautiful. A healthy wolf looks beautiful. There's no reason a healthy werewolf has to look butt-ugly.

There should be this alluring bipolar quality, in which you at once want to go in for a closer look and run for your life. There should be this noble quality, blatantly absent in nearly all movie werewolves to date, but present in real wolves. Do that, and intimidation should come naturally. I think people would be more intimidated by a werewolf if it were beautiful, because the sense of panic would be tempered with the confusing alternate emotion of fascination.

"It is the crulest trick of hell lthat demons should be so magnificent"
~Jocelyn-human, His Segrant's Honor, Man-Kzin wars IX

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[Apokryltaros]

Intimidating, but beautiful. A healthy person looks beautiful. A healthy wolf looks beautiful. There's no reason a healthy werewolf has to look butt-ugly.

There should be this alluring bipolar quality, in which you at once want to go in for a closer look and run for your life. There should be this noble quality, blatantly absent in nearly all movie werewolves to date, but present in real wolves. Do that, and intimidation should come naturally. I think people would be more intimidated by a werewolf if it were beautiful, because the sense of panic would be tempered with the confusing alternate emotion of fascination.

Of course, the problem is, that the movie makers want to scare you when they show you a werewolf.
What better way to scare you than to show you something that's horrible and ugly, ja?
A tragically overused, yet understated axiom, alas.

[Figarou]

Of course, the problem is, that the movie makers want to scare you when they show you a werewolf.
What better way to scare you than to show you something that's horrible and ugly, ja?
A tragically overused, yet understated axiom, alas.

You can have a perfectly normal human in a movie. Loving, caring, ETC. But he turns out to be a vicious killer at the end. Why not add that element of suprize to a werewolf?

The werewolf may look tame and beautiful. But if need be, it can be as vicious as an ugly one!!

[Apokryltaros]

You can have a perfectly normal human in a movie. Loving, caring, ETC. But he turns out to be a vicious killer at the end. Why not add that element of suprize to a werewolf?

The werewolf may look tame and beautiful. But if need be, it can be as vicious as an ugly one!!

Tragically, it's cheaper to make a werewolf that's ugly all the time.

[Aki]

Intimidating, but beautiful. A healthy person looks beautiful. A healthy wolf looks beautiful. There's no reason a healthy werewolf has to look butt-ugly.

There should be this alluring bipolar quality, in which you at once want to go in for a closer look and run for your life. There should be this noble quality, blatantly absent in nearly all movie werewolves to date, but present in real wolves. Do that, and intimidation should come naturally. I think people would be more intimidated by a werewolf if it were beautiful, because the sense of panic would be tempered with the confusing alternate emotion of fascination.

Of course, the problem is, that the movie makers want to scare you when they show you a werewolf.
What better way to scare you than to show you something that's horrible and ugly, ja?
A tragically overused, yet understated axiom, alas.

Of course, they totally overlook how scary a Wolf can look when pissed off.

[Apokryltaros]

Of course, they totally overlook how scary a Wolf can look when pissed off.

It's not that the 'wolf is pissed off, it's that it's like, how a man would react if he was stricken with PMS for the rest of his life.

[IblisPendragon]

I think the werewolves shoild have bare torsos, with a line of fur following their protruding spine which ends in a tail. Their legs are hairy of course, and their knees are bent the wrong way. They should be bulky, muscular and very intimidating. Yellow eyes of course, sharp teeth, a bit yellow, with chunks of meat between them, clawed hands or more handlike paws,since they have arms and not forelegs..The skin on their torsos should be leathery, and if they're old, cracked and with warts..hehe..Bad breath goes without saying..and a terrifying guttural voice...beautiful..hehe

[hydrocarbon]

...and their knees are bent the wrong way.

Why? No mammal, bird, or reptile (that I know of) has knees that bend backwards, wolves included.

They should be bulky, muscular and very intimidating.

But I do like your direction here They're an unnatural creature, so they'd make your hairs stand on end, hehe.

[Scott Gardener]

I think he's thinking of the digitigrade versus plantigrade stances. The ankle might be his "knee bent backwards." He might be doing what I did back in the late 80s--pushing the actual knee up near the pelvis, keeping a short femur and long tibia and fibula, thus exaggerating the plantigrade to the point of generating a new kind of posture.

The only problem with that is that it either makes one short and squatty-looking, or requires having metatarsals that are longer than either human or wolf.

Easier to follow the "consensus" digitigrade template, and it looks more elegant to boot.

[IblisPendragon]

I didn't actually mean for the knee to be bent backwards, it's hard to explain without a picture really..but not a normal straight human-leg, if you get my drift..hehe....and tall, I've always pictured them taller than humans..dunno why..

[Aki]

I didn't actually mean for the knee to be bent backwards, it's hard to explain without a picture really..but not a normal straight human-leg, if you get my drift..hehe....and tall, I've always pictured them taller than humans..dunno why..

Actually theres very little difference between a Wolf and human leg.

Stand on your tip-toes, and bend your knees some. Viola, wolf-leg. Thats a digitgrade pose, walking on your toes.

Wolves just have a longer 'foot'.

[IblisPendragon]

find then..a longer foot..as long as it looks unnatural to humans..

[Anubis]

i think that werewolves should be at least 7 ft tall. walk up right like a human but walks on wolf like hind legs and sterong enof to easily rip a door of its hinges fast enof to make a drag racer jelous . males should be muscle bound ragging bags of testosterone and females should be well muscled but still have sexy figures

[outwarddoodles]

Werewolves being very tall isn't quite going to happen, yeah, I'll bet 'cha they'll be taller but never 20 ft. Their strength will depend on their human strength (yet may naturally be healtheir.). and we females don't need sexy figures when we're busy pulling door's of their hinges!

[Vilkacis]

and we females don't need sexy figures when we're busy pulling door's of their hinges!

-- Vilkacis

[WolvenOne]

Personally I'm for a "as realistic as possible," design, mainly because, as you all know, real wolves can be cute, pretty or scary depending on thier age and mood. I'm assuming that if you build them realistically enough they'll have a similer range of looks.

[Scott Gardener]

The digitigrade stance will add a little height, but seven feet or more implies a gained mass, unless you do a thin and lanky look, and none of us want a repeat of Azkaban.

And, if you start changing mass, you're diddling with fundamental physics in such a way as to make our virus debate obsolete. If you can gain and loose mass, you're screwing with the basic laws of the universe, and that takes more than rewriting DNA.

[WolvenOne]

Unfortunetly, there's no real way to get around a transformation without adding mass or taking it from elsewhere. I mean, where the heck is this muzzle or tail come from? It's not as if humans have a few pounds of extra bones hanging around thier body just incase they grow some new limbs.

Fur and some other aspects of the change can be accomplished without breaking this rule of course, but once you get to bones it starts becoming difficult.

and no shrinking down the size of the werewolf slightly to accomadate the new bones wouldn't work because all the internal organs would need to shrink as well. If you're going the sci-fi route you would simply need to fudge it, though this isn't a problem if you're relying on magic or seemingly magic technalogy.