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Click and Clone

Posted: Mon Jul 14, 2008 3:17 am
by Lycanthrope
An amusing way to learn the process of cloning. Fast and simple. The rest of the site is worth seeing too.

http://learn.genetics.utah.edu/units/cl ... ckandclone

Re: Click and Clone

Posted: Mon Jul 14, 2008 9:16 pm
by RedEye
Cute. Now, if we could only do that with Wolves and Humans...waitaminnit!
No nucleus, so the egg wouldn't know what it was. Add one species to another, and what do you get (if the clone takes?)

Either a very social human, or a really retarded wolf. :lol:

Maybe a Wolf with thumbs... :o

Re: Click and Clone

Posted: Tue Jul 15, 2008 4:01 pm
by Set
This is kind of fun. *clones mousie again* :D

Re: Click and Clone

Posted: Tue Jul 15, 2008 8:37 pm
by outwarddoodles
Red-Eye: From my basic highschool knowledge of genetics, I'd think you have to splice the DNA before you can create any hybrids. Otherwise, the egg will just grow into whatever DNA was donated -- assuming, of course, that an egg will accept another specie's DNA.

Ohh, and this was nerdily enjoyable.

Re: Click and Clone

Posted: Wed Jul 16, 2008 6:14 am
by Howlitzer
Yeah, assuming the clone did take, It wouldn't be a hybrid. It might have some minor cellular anomalies if the egg cell was from a different species, but overall there's nothing to say that it wouldn't, due to genetics, be anything other than a genetically identical copy of the donor of the genetic materal.

Sooo if somebody were to try this between a wolf and a human....WHY they'd do this, I don't know.... one thing's for sure: if the wolf gave birth to a human child, she'd probably be pretty damn confused.

Re: Click and Clone

Posted: Thu Jul 17, 2008 12:02 am
by RedEye
Howlitzer wrote:Yeah, assuming the clone did take, It wouldn't be a hybrid. It might have some minor cellular anomalies if the egg cell was from a different species, but overall there's nothing to say that it wouldn't, due to genetics, be anything other than a genetically identical copy of the donor of the genetic materal.

Sooo if somebody were to try this between a wolf and a human....WHY they'd do this, I don't know.... one thing's for sure: if the wolf gave birth to a human child, she'd probably be pretty damn confused.
Which? The Wolf, The Child, or the Veteranarian? :lol:

Re: Click and Clone

Posted: Thu Jul 17, 2008 12:37 am
by Howlitzer
RedEye wrote:
Howlitzer wrote:Yeah, assuming the clone did take, It wouldn't be a hybrid. It might have some minor cellular anomalies if the egg cell was from a different species, but overall there's nothing to say that it wouldn't, due to genetics, be anything other than a genetically identical copy of the donor of the genetic materal.

Sooo if somebody were to try this between a wolf and a human....WHY they'd do this, I don't know.... one thing's for sure: if the wolf gave birth to a human child, she'd probably be pretty damn confused.
Which? The Wolf, The Child, or the Veteranarian? :lol:
yes

Re: Click and Clone

Posted: Thu Jul 17, 2008 2:34 pm
by Dreamer
RedEye wrote:Cute. Now, if we could only do that with Wolves and Humans...waitaminnit!
No nucleus, so the egg wouldn't know what it was. Add one species to another, and what do you get (if the clone takes?)

Either a very social human, or a really retarded wolf. :lol:

Maybe a Wolf with thumbs... :o
No, mopre like a horiffic abomination taht can barely move and should be mercy-killed. Because I think the sets of genes might interact very badly.

Re: Click and Clone

Posted: Thu Jul 17, 2008 7:24 pm
by Howlitzer
Dreamer wrote:
RedEye wrote:Cute. Now, if we could only do that with Wolves and Humans...waitaminnit!
No nucleus, so the egg wouldn't know what it was. Add one species to another, and what do you get (if the clone takes?)

Either a very social human, or a really retarded wolf. :lol:

Maybe a Wolf with thumbs... :o
No, mopre like a horiffic abomination taht can barely move and should be mercy-killed. Because I think the sets of genes might interact very badly.
except....no

There's only ONE set of genes involved in a clone. They strip the egg cell of it's DNA, then insert the DNA from the cell being cloned..... the original DNA from the egg cell IS NOT THERE. It's not much more than a shell.

In fact, the DNA is, among other things, responsible for telling the cell HOW to make MORE material for the cell to grow and eventually divide. If the egg cell to begin with was a Wolf egg cell, but the DNA was human.... the Human DNA is calling the shots, and over time there wouldn't be enough of the original Wolf egg cell to make much of a difference in anything.....the human DNA would tell the cell to rebuild and divide into more HUMAN cells. The makings of the original egg cell doesn't do much of anything, it would just divide into all the future cells into increasingly smaller amounts...

kinda like taking a drop of red food coloring and a drop of blue food coloring and mixing them.....you get purple, something in between... but if you continue adding more red food coloring, but not blue, it will eventually look entirely red. The blue will be spread too thin to do much of anything.

Re: Click and Clone

Posted: Mon Dec 22, 2008 5:29 am
by Lycanthrope
And now for something less amusing.

http://learn.genetics.utah.edu/content/ ... mouse.html

Re: Click and Clone

Posted: Tue Dec 23, 2008 5:08 pm
by Scott Gardener
You'd get a human raised by wolves, assuming you could pull it off. At least, you'd get a human embryo that would implant into a wolf rather than another human. All this assumes that you could debug all the hundreds of biochemical things that would go wrong and lead instead to rejection.

Re: Click and Clone

Posted: Tue Dec 23, 2008 6:34 pm
by RedEye
I can see it now: "Wolf Female gives birth to human baby. Mate suing for divorce on grounds of infidelity." :lol: