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Hunts

Posted: Thu Jun 23, 2005 10:43 pm
by Silverclaw
So how so you think a WW hunts? Like regular wolves, all rallying toghter and help bring down an animal? Or go off on their own to hunt? Think if it was like a normal wolf hunt, would they howl toghter first?(like real wolves) And would the Alpha eat first while the others wait their turns, with the omega eating last?
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Posted: Thu Jun 23, 2005 10:51 pm
by Terastas
There might have been some traditional method way back when, but at current day, any sort of traditional hunt would probably have seriously devolved in it's signifigance to pack life and, except for those living their lives in full wolf form, hunting would probably just be done for the sake of tradition in general.

There might have been a whole procedure by which the alpha coordinates the rest of his pack, but in order to keep a low profile, any hunting would have to be done the modern way: with a deer rifle (or if they think a gun is overkill like a lot of hunters do, the classic bow and arrow). Their reasons would probably be the same as humans: they don't actually need to kill for food (you can spend hundreds of dollars on weaponry and attire and spend all night waiting for it, or ten bucks and five minutes at the butcher shop), but they might do it just for the sport of the hunt, or possibly take along a fellow pack member to do some family bonding or whatnot.

Re: Hunts

Posted: Fri Jun 24, 2005 1:34 am
by Lupin
Sure, every fiday night at the local bar. :P

Re: Hunts

Posted: Fri Jun 24, 2005 8:18 am
by Ashwinder
Lupin wrote:Sure, every fiday night at the local bar. :P
And maybe on Tuesdays for karaoke night?

Posted: Fri Jun 24, 2005 8:24 am
by silverpaw
would there still be like lone WW's and stuff, as having any human, typeness they would be more independant and probly thin k higher of themselves :P but the wolf side would do its little thing and keep a kinda order thingy...if that makes sense

oh yeah im back, my mum took my laptop so yah...me back and happy :o

Posted: Fri Jun 24, 2005 8:50 am
by Terastas
silverpaw wrote:would there still be like lone WW's and stuff, as having any human, typeness they would be more independant and probly thin k higher of themselves :P but the wolf side would do its little thing and keep a kinda order thingy...if that makes sense

oh yeah im back, my mum took my laptop so yah...me back and happy :o
A lot of the werewolf population could be. Becomming a werewolf would cause the individual to feel different, and most likely unwanted by the rest of society, which would cause them to live more secluded lives. Ideally, a newbie werewolf would always know of at least one other werewolf in the area, that being the one that bit him, but if said werewolf was intentionally malicious or worse, if the newcomer or anyone else had believed in and followed through with all that "kill the werewolf that bit you to cure yourself" bullcrap, then he would be a lone wolf.

Posted: Fri Jun 24, 2005 8:55 am
by silverpaw
yah taking up same old human skill , Kill Each Other,... :( ..idiots

Posted: Fri Jun 24, 2005 1:00 pm
by Scott Gardener
If one took the better parts of both worlds, a lycanthrope would have the advantages of a wolf's body, which is better suited to hunt prey without needing external weapons, plus the advantage of human planning and communication. A single werewolf could hunt small prey alone, but a pack could take down pretty large animals.

"Where were you last weekend?"
"Oh, me and my friends were out hunting deer. We got us a pretty large buck, too."
"Oh, I didn't know you hunted. Where do you keep your gun?"
"Guns? We don't need no stinking guns..."

Posted: Fri Jun 24, 2005 5:48 pm
by outwarddoodles
Quite frankyl these people are humans, so they can devise their own plan to take down a deer and ofcource would be civil enough to share their food. Even though hunting might be something on occasion for all they have to do is go down to McDonalds for food. (Just not as a wolf.)

Posted: Fri Jun 24, 2005 7:20 pm
by silverpaw
soo hunting would be like a special occasion type thing, say going out to dinner celebrating a birthday stuff like that, or maybe just if ya feel like running through the night.

Posted: Fri Jun 24, 2005 8:03 pm
by Terastas
silverpaw wrote:soo hunting would be like a special occasion type thing, say going out to dinner celebrating a birthday stuff like that, or maybe just if ya feel like running through the night.
*nods* The same way it is for humans too. Nobody actually needs to hunt when there's six different restaurants downtown, but a lot of people still set aside weekends to go hunting with friends, more or less for the sport element and to get away from the rest of the world and be with just those one or two friends.

Werewolves might have traditional value in hunting to boot, though I seriously doubt that many werewolves would be all that concerned with keeping said tradition going.

Posted: Fri Jun 24, 2005 8:10 pm
by Figarou
Terastas wrote:
silverpaw wrote:soo hunting would be like a special occasion type thing, say going out to dinner celebrating a birthday stuff like that, or maybe just if ya feel like running through the night.
*nods* The same way it is for humans too. Nobody actually needs to hunt when there's six different restaurants downtown, but a lot of people still set aside weekends to go hunting with friends, more or less for the sport element and to get away from the rest of the world and be with just those one or two friends.

Werewolves might have traditional value in hunting to boot, though I seriously doubt that many werewolves would be all that concerned with keeping said tradition going.

Some humans hunt just for the sport. Not for food. I really hate it when innocent wolves are killed just for sport or popualtion control. :x

Posted: Sat Jun 25, 2005 12:02 am
by silverpaw
i hate all tyoes of hunting unless for food, i hate fashion clothes with reall fur and stuff hate sport hunting, :x

Posted: Sat Jun 25, 2005 12:11 pm
by outwarddoodles
Quite apparently I am not against hunting. I don't like endangered species being hunted nor excessive hunting. I also dislike poaching. Yet hunting for some nice fun and making sure to stick it in the freezer and eat it, I find nothing wronge.

Posted: Sat Jun 25, 2005 12:34 pm
by Terastas
Figarou wrote:Some humans hunt just for the sport. Not for food. I really hate it when innocent wolves are killed just for sport or popualtion control. :x
:roll: I'm not saying I understand it; just that some people think it counts as a sport for some reason.

I'm having a hard time deciding if werewolves would be more or less likely to enjoy hunting. One one hand, they would have to have been pack hunters at one point, so while it'd be easier to just go to the grocery store, they may find some emotional attatchment to the process of killing a deer and making use of every part. But, on the other hand, as you've mentioned, there is a definite sense of cruelty in killing for the simple joy of killing, which werewolves may see as being too closely related to the Hollywood stereotype of werewolves, and being wolves themselves, they definitely wouldn't want to partake in the kind of hunting exclusively for sport (bears, wolves and other large carnivores).

I do, however, know people that hunt and "make it a point to let nothing go to waste" (they'll kill for the meat and like doing it), so if werewolves were to hunt, I think that's how they'd do it: excluslively hunt deer and make use of everything.

Otherwise, werewolves would probably just be the fishing type.

Posted: Sat Jun 25, 2005 2:38 pm
by outwarddoodles
I'm not saying I understand it; just that some people think it counts as a sport for some reason.
I would say it very much is a sport. It takes skill, pratice, and hard work.

Posted: Sat Jun 25, 2005 3:24 pm
by Terastas
outwarddoodles wrote:I would say it very much is a sport. It takes skill, pratice, and hard work.
:roll: Well... Yeah, but so does knitting. :P

Posted: Sat Jun 25, 2005 3:36 pm
by outwarddoodles
Well... Yeah, but so does knitting.
Announcer: Here we are on ESPN watching the knitting championships, you can see Granny sure is picking up the speed there! Wonder what shes knitting. It looks like it...Oh! Look at her skill! Such a sport!

Posted: Wed Jul 06, 2005 9:15 pm
by Silverclaw
I dont really think a werewolf/or WW pack hunting would be all that rare at all. Being part wolf, they would have hunting insticts and such. Not that they would go nuts and go on a killing spree in the suburbs. Maybe get toghter and try and find a deer herd. In a relitivly safe area of course; where they wont be spotted by humans. Eat their kills, not leave it to rot. I'm sure they would get hungry if they waited around all night, waiting to tf back :wink:

Posted: Wed Jul 06, 2005 10:53 pm
by outwarddoodles
Silverclaw wrote: Being part wolf, they would have hunting insticts and such.
Actually no, I don't see how being injected with wolven DNA gives them more 'natural instincts' that they already have. Which the main instinct appears to be eat. Both human, wolf, and like every creature, is born with that knowledge. Otherwise a wolf does not instinctively know how to kill, may know that there is a reason to kill, but not exactly how.

Posted: Thu Jul 07, 2005 11:42 am
by Scott Gardener
Some human behavior is proving to be genetic, giving credence to the idea that instincts are real afterall. (For the longest time, I felt that the whole concept of "instincts" was a way of pretending that other animals didn't actually think.)

I think some hunting abilities would come naturally, such as how to move without making too much noise, or how to run on all fours in different gaits.

However, practice, knowledge, and experience would still matter.

Posted: Thu Jul 07, 2005 12:48 pm
by Silverclaw
I dont know. A WW with no wolf instincts/thoughts at all seems more like a furry. I dont think a WW should have a 110% human mind.

Re: Hunts

Posted: Thu Jul 07, 2005 2:07 pm
by Searif
Silverclaw wrote:So how so you think a WW hunts? Like regular wolves, all rallying toghter and help bring down an animal? Or go off on their own to hunt? Think if it was like a normal wolf hunt, would they howl toghter first?(like real wolves) And would the Alpha eat first while the others wait their turns, with the omega eating last?
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all matters, if they are in a pack then like normal wolves, but if they are all alone then they do it by their self

Posted: Thu Jul 07, 2005 3:50 pm
by outwarddoodles
Scott Gardener wrote:Some human behavior is proving to be genetic, giving credence to the idea that instincts are real afterall. (For the longest time, I felt that the whole concept of "instincts" was a way of pretending that other animals didn't actually think.)

I think some hunting abilities would come naturally, such as how to move without making too much noise, or how to run on all fours in different gaits.

However, practice, knowledge, and experience would still matter.
I would think it would prove to be experiance. As I said a wolf is most likely born knowing there is a need to hunt, but not how. If you watch say cheetahs, because the mother can't make them stay at home, try as she might, the young cheetahs restlessy run after their prey without stalking. Showing they havent learned whether from their mother or from individual thought that they must sneak up. Same would probaly go with alot of predetors.

Different gaits, I think its just the learning to use ones two feet, or four. Though how ever a horse learn's his walk and gallop versus a llama's pace I couldn't tell. And the fact that humans use their diaganols when they walk (swinging their arms.).

Being I've pointed out mothers this does cause complications for animals who do not stay around their mother. Say a Crocidiles 'death roll'. Etheir they decifer how to use it on their own, saw others doing it, or just knew it. But being small when they are born Crocs don't have to much complications finding food as their younger, its not like they are bringing down zebras.

Instincts would be an interesting topic to study. :wink: