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Is there anyone else so disgusted by humanity, and enamoured with wolves that they woudl go that route? Permenent wolf form?

Would our protagonists in freeborn do such?

honestly i have no idea

Mmm.. anythings possible, I mean, if normal humans can get loopy enough to go off and live in the middle of the Alaskan wilderness in total isolation, then I imagine there would be werewolves doing so as well.

(FYI: That does indeed happen.... I know of people in Alaska that go 8 years at a time without seeing other human beings.)

true, but mabey with out all the stuff were living with, life would be so much simpler...true work will be harder but i think people would be more friendly with out all the stuff they take for granted.There are time a sports player complains that he made 50,000 dollars less than what he wants. To think that all the money they get and dont deserve and they complain for 50,000 dollars. thats like losing 10 bucks for them in the way we look at it, but im going off topic here. Still yet i just cant live without my video games! and T.V.


I missed the point didnt I

Personally, I don't dislike humans in general -- just the humans I have to put up with the most in my life (namely my brother/roommate, the dumbest decision of my entire life). However, it's not that uncommon for people to feel like humanity itself is going down the crapper, nor is it unusual for some to go to great lengths to isolate themselves from the rest of the world (JD Salinger, for example).

I don't particularly know if any of the characters in Freeborn will, but I do know that the lead protagonist's father has "gone feral." I certainly think a werewolf could opt to spend the rest of their life as a wolf, and though I don't think a lot of them would follow through with it, I'm sure every werewolf has had more than one day where they considered it a possibility (kind of like committing suicide or joining the circus -- none of us ever follow through with it, but every Thanksgiving, we think about it).

Vicious wrote:Is there anyone else so disgusted by humanity, and enamoured with wolves that they woudl go that route? Permenent wolf form?

Yeah. But I'd stay out of Alaska. The governor of that state allows the barbaric practice of aerial hunting.

Yes, human life can be confusing. School, taxes, wacko government. I don't hate all humans, I dislike alot I'm with. Though humanity may not be the best I love it. Where did I et back from today? I great big party, it was my mom's friend's birthday party. Never met these people but they were the nice. A had a time around people but in the end alot of people left. I had pigged out on ribs and some people were getting drunk. So the mom, I don't know her age but he was older, got out a hose and sprayed the other drunks, I stood up and asked to get hosed. Alot of fun. One guy was too drunk and couldn't walk (he had a driver!), the mom was doing kareoke. And Jeff, the dad, heated up a very great steak just for me. Becuase everytime I eat with people the wemon gasp in horror while the men seem to adore my ability to eat! My step Dad's parents were very happy and told them the next time I visit they'll make me lots of food. When I left I thanked Jeff and he told me next time he has a party he'll make lots of ribs just for me. And now after a day of human partying I'm on the 'puter.

I futzing love humanity.

Vicious wrote:Is there anyone else so disgusted by humanity, and enamoured with wolves that they woudl go that route? Permenent wolf form?

What's so glorious about being just a wolf?
Is rolling around in the dirt, the grass, what you pooped out 3 hours ago, some how better than having the power to name things, or is being lead around in circles by the worms in your prey some how better than having thumbs?

fullmoonfury wrote: Yeah. But I'd stay out of Alaska. The governor of that state allows the barbaric practice of aerial hunting.

This is true but as a former citizen of Alaska I can personally testify that a wolf would still be safer in Alaska then someplace like Idaho. There's simply much more inhabited land in Alaska where humans have little presence. For this reason the wolf typically isn't endangered in Alaska and has a tendency to thrive.

Now I could argue that aerial shooting is more humane then letting wolves starve to death, as I have seen this very situation in real-life and it's horrific. However a detailed debate on that subject is probably best left to private discussion.

Nah. I like the stuff i got too much to totally forsake erverything.

Lupin wrote:

Vicious wrote:Is there anyone else so disgusted by humanity, and enamoured with wolves that they woudl go that route? Permenent wolf form?

Would our protagonists in freeborn do such?

Personally, no. I like things like broadband internet, air conditoning,.........

And home theater!!

you would bring up YOUR home theatre system, wouldnt you?!

Cassandra wrote:you would bring up YOUR home theatre system, wouldnt you?!

Well it doesn't make much sense if he brought up someone else's home theater system.

Cassandra wrote:you would bring up YOUR home theatre system, wouldnt you?!

You better believe it!!!

Lupin wrote:
Well it doesn't make much sense if he brought up someone else's home theater system.

HA!!! I like your thinking!!!

Shadow Wulf wrote:true, but mabey with out all the stuff were living with, life would be so much simpler...true work will be harder but i think people would be more friendly with out all the stuff they take for granted.

Yeah, living as a wolf would be a lot harder. On a hunt they typically have success rates of anywhere from 10-50% .



Meanwhile I have a "going to a fast food resturant and getting lunch" success rate of about 95%. (The other 5% is where I get distracted and forget I'm leaving.)

I think its impossible to live as a werewolf forever. Because it takes a lot of energy.

Heh. You have all raised one really good point -- we're highly intelligent animals so it's hard to keep our minds stimulated.

What I would argue in defense, however, is that a lot of things can be lived without if they suddenly do not become available options. When my brother and I first moved into this apartment, for example, we didn't have cable, PS2, TV or a CD player -- just a pair of air mattresses, our laptops, and a couple of milk crates that we used as desks. After a week I didn't miss them, and by the end of January I didn't even think about them. My brother, on the other hand, apparently suffered some severe withdrawal and over Spring break, brought back a TV, PS2 and CD player from our mom's house and signed us up for Comcast Cable (his first and last financial contribution to this place!).

Now I can't remember how I lived without them.

A full wolf lifestyle would probably be along the same lines. Some people couldn't do it, whereas some people would only miss all the modern means of entertainment for a short while, during which they would probably instead be having fun adapting to their new wolf forms. ("Yay! My first kill!" "Wow! My first night in a real wolf den!" "Is that an airplane? Heh, catch me if you can asshole!")

Hey Figarou did you make that drawing on your avatar

Shadow Wulf wrote:Hey Figarou did you make that drawing on your avatar

No, LoboLEO made that.

-- Vilkacis

kool, i gotta pay him to make me a drawing

There are things we want, and things we need.

We don't need all we have, in general. It pollutes us.
Maybe a person doesn't want out, but they need out.

Vicious wrote:There are things we want, and things we need.

We don't need all we have, in general. It pollutes us.
Maybe a person doesn't want out, but they need out.

*points to the exit*

Vicious wrote:There are things we want, and things we need.

We don't need all we have, in general. It pollutes us.
Maybe a person doesn't want out, but they need out.

I find that most people have no idea what they really need.