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Re: Should a Werewolf Bite a Wolf?

Posted: Tue Dec 30, 2008 12:30 am
by Wingman
Celestialwolf wrote:Wow! You referenced my site like I was a werewolf authority or something! :o While those are my views on how they should be, everyone does have their own opinions. That's what I love about this place--I always get so many ideas and new insights after reading what everyone has to say, things I probably never would have even considered before on my own!

P.S. The new Pack wiki is up. Contribute! :D
Wait, how many wikis do we have?

Re: Should a Werewolf Bite a Wolf?

Posted: Wed Dec 31, 2008 5:48 pm
by Noir-Okami
I say that it should be done for comedic purposes. :D

Re: Should a Werewolf Bite a Wolf?

Posted: Wed Dec 31, 2008 6:36 pm
by Vagrant
Wingman: Just the one, now, the other was just a stepping stone to get there, hopefully it'll all coalesce at the wiki owned by Celestial. We only ever had two though, the wikia one and Celestial's own, I think?

Noir-Okami: ...as terrible as this is, my mind is already making a cheap comedy movie out of that concept, likely starring Jim Carrey.

"We cook our meat, this is a hot-dog."
"...you eat DOGS?!"
"Naww, it's just called that, the true meat is-- it's-- you know, it's nebulous, but it's usually Cow, or Pig, ...I think."
"..."
"Let's not eat the hot-dog. Moving right along!"

Re: Should a Werewolf Bite a Wolf?

Posted: Fri Jan 02, 2009 2:03 am
by Leonca~
I know there’s been at least one book written about this subject, though I can’t remember the name. It’s supposed to be pretty funny from what I’ve heard.

The way my version works biting a wolf wouldn’t do anything to it. The bite is only designed to change humans, so it has no effect on animals. I could see there being other ways for a wolf to become a human though (kitsune stories are a good example of the animal-into-human theme, though I have heard of a few wolf versions in folklore too).

Posted: Fri Jan 02, 2009 3:13 am
by Midnight
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Re: Should a Werewolf Bite a Wolf?

Posted: Fri Jan 02, 2009 9:20 am
by Vagrant
I remember you recommending that book before, Midnight, and truth be told, I've been trying to track it down ever since the recommendation. It's a bugger to find though, as it seems to be out of print.

But it would be interesting to see what a professional writer would make of the topic at hand, I think that's one tale I'll enjoy reading.

Re: Should a Werewolf Bite a Wolf?

Posted: Fri Jan 02, 2009 7:37 pm
by Leonca~
Oh yeah, that's the one. Why are the best books always out of print? :(

Re: Should a Werewolf Bite a Wolf?

Posted: Sat Jan 17, 2009 7:33 am
by WolfMontana
Heh, I see Midnight has beaten me to it.

I selected 'No, never' purely from having read Howling Mad, and totally going along with the perhaps implausible idea that a man who turns into a wolf biting a wolf gives you a wolf who turns into a man. The main character (said wolf) does not have an easy way of it and greatly laments losing his pack, his senses, his way of life. Digs the thumbs though. And pizza. :P

Re: Should a Werewolf Bite a Wolf?

Posted: Sat Jan 17, 2009 3:48 pm
by Vagrant
WolfMontana wrote:[...] and greatly laments losing his pack, his senses, his way of life.
The point you've made there regarding senses is a very interesting one indeed.

One of the reasons I long to be a Werewolf is because of the heightened senses, I've often dreamed about how they see the World, and I want to experience that. I imagined that after I had, I'd probably spend as much time in gestalt or full Wolf as I could, because going back to being Human would be torturous, I'd no longer have that three-dimensional sense of the World around me that I imagine scents provide.

Opposedly, going by the old tradition of 'I shift in a full moon' (that's not my Werewolves, but hypothetically) like in Howling Mad, indeed, the Werewolf would be forced to lose sense, it'd be like someone giving another person a rather debilitating disease that brought their senses down to about 10 per cent of what they were. Imagine if you could barely see, and your vision was a blurry mess that you could only occasionally make things out with--that's probably what it'd be like for a Wolf to lose their sense of smell.

My Werewolves--shifting isn't forced, so if a Wolf was converted, they'd only shift to what they wanted to, and they could only make use of gestalt if they so desired. So there would be no loss of senses there, I say this because resigning a Wolf to the life of a Human would probably be an amazingly cruel thing to do, due to the loss of senses alone.

Re: Should a Werewolf Bite a Wolf?

Posted: Sat Jan 17, 2009 5:10 pm
by Terastas
Wingman wrote:Scott, you could always go FOXDIE on it and have only people with specific genetic markers be affected.
Also known as the Syphon Filter method, for those of you that didn't play Metal Gear.

And it is a possibility. A werewolf in basic definition is half man and half wolf, so I don't particularly see any reason why it would affect organisms who are already half a werewolf but not organisms who are the other half a werewolf. :P But no matter what the nature of the viroid, there absolutely would be some room for immunity.

Like I said earlier, I have it written in my own versions that lycanthropy becomes dormant at the cellular level. That dormant phase of lycanthropy can be passed on to others, and it's pretty much a crapshoot as to when it becomes active, if ever at all (some show signs as early as 10, others make it all the way to 30 without showing).

Something else possibly worth considering is that we only really know what triggers an automatic shift in a human host. If there is no equivalent of the lunar affect for true wolves, a wolf given lycanthropy could be just a carrier of the viroid.

That is, of course, a very big "if," so it should still come attached with all the ethical and moral questions that were brought up on Page 1.

Re: Should a Werewolf Bite a Wolf?

Posted: Tue Jan 20, 2009 7:30 pm
by WerewolfKeeper3
Only if they pass on:
Intillect {a wolf that can speak human languages, and is about as intelligent as it would be if it were a human}
Healing abilities
And that's it... honestly, i think those would be the only things that could be passed on, seeing the wolf, is already an animal.

But... no otherwise...