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Now its time for polling.

First set of polls will be in regards to the look.

There's way too many movies where werewolves look like somebody splattered them with glue and rolled them in fur remnants. Look at the real animal for guidance here. Generally, wolves keep their coats reasonably clean and groomed. If the intent is to have some sympathy for the character, then having them look disheveled and mangy certainly won't help, either.

Gonna agree with Tigerwolf here.

Wolves are fairly well groomed animals and simply put, the hidious ape-like werewolves seen in a lot of movies simply bother me because they really don't look like wolves or humans, but rather look like disfigured apes.

Wolves have gorgeous pelts, all that shaggy, thick fur is heavenly. There need to be more werewolves with FULL pelts, like the ones in VanHelsing. Whether they are perfectly groomed or shaggy and unkept doesn't really matter to me, as long as fur covers all of their body.

I'd say the style of fur should variate in order to reflect a character's personality. A lazy devil-may-care kind of werewolf could have shaggy and unkempt fur, while a charismatic pack leader would take more care in grooming himself.

EDIT: Spelling error.

Terastas wrote:I'd say the style of fur should variate in order to reflect a character's personality. A lady devil-may-care kind of werewolf could have shaggy and unkempt fur, while a charismatic pack leader would take more care in grooming himself.

Took the words right out of my muzzle ^^

I agree that it depends on character on how they keep their fur. A evil werewolf could have shaggy unkept fur while an alpha keeps him/her self looking good.

But their MUST be fur all over the body. I hate seeing bald werewolves or with just patches of stringy fur.

Definately more even and well kept, wolves are pretty clean animals and the same if not more so for werewolves

Also one thing I have a complant about most werewolves in movies is that they are most often a solid dark brown (some are black and a few grey), but most wolves are not a solid color all over their body, the closest would be either the white artic wolf or a black wolf but even they have some slight variation in coat colors more then often.

I like the fact that you are going with more wolf like fur coat colors ^..^

I totally agree with TigerWolf, look to real wolves for coat variations. While the genes that make a particular color coat are passed from parents to cubs, it is not unusual for two tawny wolves to have a mostly black offspring.

No brown werewolves!

Something that could be used to designate age is the fact that wolves grey out as they get older. This is particularly noticeable in mostly black wolves. By 5 or 6 they will have noticeably white chests and muzzles. If they make it to 14 they are likely to be nearly all white.

I don?t think that a were?s character would affect their coat condition much, especially if it is assumed that they will stay in their wolf form for relatively short periods. Each time they shift their coat would be regrown. However, I can see where such a designation would make it easier to designate good from bad wolves.

I believe that the thickness of the fur should not hide the gender characteristics the werewolves, that is to say, that they have so much fur on their chest that we cannot tell if they have breasts or not. I prefer not for them to have noticable muscle definition under their pelts.

Treads Lightly wrote:I totally agree with TigerWolf, look to real wolves for coat variations. While the genes that make a particular color coat are passed from parents to cubs, it is not unusual for two tawny wolves to have a mostly black offspring.

No brown werewolves!

But what happens if the werewolf has brown hair in his or her human form?

Long hair should still be present. Hair should overall lengthen a bit and get wilder. Thicker/longer fur about the neck, upper chest, shoulders, and upper back.

Definite bushy tails.

I'd say the style of fur should variate in order to reflect a character's personality.

Disagree. The only things that should affect a wolf's fur coat are seasons and health. So in winter it's thicker, and if they're infested with mange or not eating properly it'd look clumpy. IIRC, wolves in the wild don't spend much (if any) time grooming. I'm pretty sure theri fur just looks like that naturally.

A society of werewolves might doo all sorts of wierd things to their fur, but that's a different issue. ;)

ANTIcarrot.

ANTIcarrot. wrote:Disagree. The only things that should affect a wolf's fur coat are seasons and health. So in winter it's thicker, and if they're infested with mange or not eating properly it'd look clumpy.

Bear in mind we have two genomes of variance combining into this form, at least if we're dealing with a hybrid bipedal form.

You have humans with thinner hair, thicker hair, occasionally curls, greasy or dry hair, and so forth.

So I see a lot of room for characterizing werewolves this way. Humans are a lot less uniform than wolves are.

True Lasthowl, but just just for once I'd like to se a werewolf that looked even vaguely like an actual wolf. Because let's face it, on average, humans are nowhere near as photogenic. For it to be vissually recognisable as a wolf you need the right muzzle, ears, tail and fur.

And a big reason it *should* have fur: Without it the were will look like just another Buffy demon or Star Trek alien. Which is something we really want to avoid. ;)

ANTIcarrot,

Wolves are clean beautiful creatures and their fur in most movies is allways shown to be ragged and unkept which isn't true and should be fixed to make them look more elegant .

I agree, id prefer to see something elegent as well, especially for the females, who knows, we may get a scene where a female is combing her hair, and her fur.

Apokryltaros wrote:But what happens if the werewolf has brown hair in his or her human form?

What I was referring to was that I would not like to see solid colored werewolves. Brown is one of the more common colors found in wolf coats, along with cremes, grays and black. The “typical” wolf coloration, as seen on the index of the forum (look up), is tawny. Wolves that are all black are extremely rarely all black but rather have white or some other coloration that is a minor part of their coat. Darker wolves, in particular, will fade as the age. Once again our thoughtful admin has provided a good example of this in the same place.

As to what happens to hair during the transformation, this hasn’t been discussed yet to my knowledge and this seems an appropriate place to do so.

My aesthetic opinion is that I do not like the look of werewolves with “human” style hair. I know that many artists draw weres this way or with long manes. There was discussion of a werewolf in Ginger Snaps (sorry, I haven’t seen the movie myself) that was easily identified because she had bright pink hair in her human form which stayed behind in the wolf form.

Since the hair is dead, it seems reasonable that it would not be consumed as part of the transformation and therefore remain unchanged. It could be argued that since a werewolf obviously has far more follicles than a normal human the formation of those fur follicles is part of the transformation and the normal hair follicles remain unchanged.

Hmmm, this is another hard one, I went with "Medium and more even fur," but Iwould think that the density of the fur would depend on the season and the climate of the environment that the werewolf is in. I envision that the werewolf would have to have fur similar to real wolves.

I went with the shorter fur option. I believe that werewolves should have full manes just like in van helsing with heavy amounts of fur running down their back and onto their fluffy tails. The front torso area should have minimal fur or really fine fur to outline the major muscle areas (not THAT muscle!). Basically, I guess what I'm trying to say here is that Van Wolfie was near perfect in my opinion. (not sure what was up with his mane though).

Think-Harder wrote:I agree, id prefer to see something elegent as well, especially for the females, who knows, we may get a scene where a female is combing her hair, and her fur.

Man, if you thought a human woman with a bad hair day was grouchy, can you imagine a werewolf b****'s attitude if she's having a bad fur day? Yikes.

Let's face it, werewolves shouldn't look like naked mole rats, should they? X3

What Mafia wrote:Let's face it, werewolves shouldn't look like naked mole rats, should they? X3

The creative staff for Devoured know for a fact that if they were to try and pull off a stunt like this, the Pack would be out for their blood, while I would be out setting up a roast...

Apokryltaros wrote:

What Mafia wrote:Let's face it, werewolves shouldn't look like naked mole rats, should they? X3

The creative staff for Devoured know for a fact that if they were to try and pull off a stunt like this, the Pack would be out for their blood, while I would be out setting up a roast...

Naked mole rat lo mein for all?

Heya, I'm new on this board. *waves*

And as for fur, well, this is just my opinion, but...

Ok, a pureblooded werewolf, or one who was born a werewolf, would have a full pelt of fur, and a slightly more lupine structure. The Van Helsing werewolves, the AWIL werewolf, and



This would be examples of a pureblooded lycanthrope.

Werewolves that were humans and then bitten and turned would be different, either more gangly or less fur and such, and their forms based somwhat on the werewolf that turned them.

Example: A person whose form looked similar to the AWIL wolf bites someone, their form would look like the Ginger Snaps form, or even the AWIP wolf, due to the fact that it's a quadraped, with a similar shape, but sleaker limbs, and a more stunted snout.

A person who was bitten by one of the VH wolves would probably have a form similar to the Underworld wolves, a powerful beast, but nearly entirely hairless except for the long mane down the back.

Don't ask where the Dog Soldiers form would originate from, cause I have no clue.

Maybe from this one



But again, just my input. And again, hi everyone. *waves*