oh god...that...that horrid man!!!! I hope he gets what's coming to him!!! that poor little puppy! he threw it so hard and far....I don't see how it can still be alive...and well. 
War can turn humans into cold-hearted monsters.nafenisr wrote:Don't take this as a defense of their actions, but war has always turned people into monsters. I once talked to a WWII vet who ashamedly admitted to burying a Japanese guy on a beach up to his neck in the sand. Then he and his buddies (while he was still alive mind you) started kicking his head like a soccer ball till there was nothing left but mush.
Remember how Stupid the dialog, quotes, and comments from the Covenant and the UNSC Marines from Halo 2 to Halo 3 is? Your marines are damn right idiots and they die easily too. Even the covenant don't act like aliens they act like humans in alien skin.freeworld wrote:I was once a part of the British Army and I can honestly say that most people in the Armed Forces would have no problem in doing these Barbaric things because they are conditioned when they join up. As far as they see it they deserve it cos they are the enemy and they deserve it, just goes to show how dumb our species is and how easily it is to condition us.
(I'm holding back so much here that i'm feeling pain) The very fact that this video has created so much outrage across the United States should actually give you hope. If all humans were heartless winches then people would have just laughed at the video and thought it was cool.ghostfang wrote:thats so f***** i lost all faith in humanity watching that video
Your post reminded me of the holocaust...alphanubilus wrote:The very fact that this video has created so much outrage across the United States should actually give you hope. If all humans were heartless winches then people would have just laughed at the video and thought it was cool.ghostfang wrote:thats so f***** i lost all faith in humanity watching that video
The fact is there are wicked people out there who treat all life, not human, as nothing more than possessions. This is very much the same behavior a 3-year-old child displayes until he or she finally learns the value of life. I can recall my sister trying to teach ducklings to swim. We had to rescue the duckies more than once.
Behavior like this shows a general lack of maturity, as well as a general lack of regard to life. While I don't wish the people involved death, dismemberment, or whatever, I do believe they should be punished. As US Marines they should be held accountable for their actions. The reality is, when a person goes so far as to mistreat another living creature, it won't be too long before they do the same to their own species.
The only thing I find more distrubing is the fact that people seem to react with more emotion of a puppy dying a cruel death, than fellow human beings being humiliated while they are being murdered by terrorists. (In reference to a video of a man being thrown into a fiery pit by terrorists).
i find it cruel if it was a human or animal i just couldnt think that someone could do that to a living thing.alphanubilus wrote:The very fact that this video has created so much outrage across the United States should actually give you hope. If all humans were heartless winches then people would have just laughed at the video and thought it was cool.ghostfang wrote:thats so f***** i lost all faith in humanity watching that video
The fact is there are wicked people out there who treat all life, not human, as nothing more than possessions. This is very much the same behavior a 3-year-old child displayes until he or she finally learns the value of life. I can recall my sister trying to teach ducklings to swim. We had to rescue the duckies more than once.
Behavior like this shows a general lack of maturity, as well as a general lack of regard to life. While I don't wish the people involved death, dismemberment, or whatever, I do believe they should be punished. As US Marines they should be held accountable for their actions. The reality is, when a person goes so far as to mistreat another living creature, it won't be too long before they do the same to their own species.
The only thing I find more distrubing is the fact that people seem to react with more emotion of a puppy dying a cruel death, than fellow human beings being humiliated while they are being murdered by terrorists. (In reference to a video of a man being thrown into a fiery pit by terrorists).
Our Marines aren't brain-washed, and anybody who has a soldier in their family will tell you that. At least in the United States, everyone who is in our Armed Forces chose to go there. Now obvisouly the guy has a very sick sense of humor, and I'm sure his little stint is going to come back and haunt him. He made a conscious choice and it was a poor one.IndianaJones wrote:Dude, what's worse. Is that not just one poor helpless puppy got killed by a brain-washed marine. People are dying right now, we just don't hear it or see it.
Including the children, the innocents, the slaughterhouse animals, preys being hunted, etc, etc. The Iraqi children are suffering too.
You should care about the humans who are suffering and dying as well.
Don't hate your humanself, unless your soul is not human.
1st of all, you need to understand WHY so many americans are upset.Renorei wrote:Wow. I can't BELIEVE people are making a bigger deal about this than about the fact that INNOCENT PEOPLE ARE DYING EVERY DAY in Iraq.
See? He's not just a U.S. soldier...he's a Marine. "The Few, The proud, The Marines." Not only is throwing of that puppy wrong, its setting a bad example. Fake or not. Would YOU trust the Marines if you saw what type of people they are?"That is mistreatment of a puppy. That is a violation of anybody's standards, and the Marine Corps sets extremely high standards."
Again...its not just the puppy. Marines are suppose to set a standard. A high standard. Throwing a puppy is not one of them.Renorei wrote:Don't get me wrong, I love animals...but it's JUST A PUPPY! What about the Iraqi children that accidentally get killed or get their limbs blown off, etc.? If you are making such a huge deal about a puppy but you you aren't equally (or moreso) outraged at the atrocities that happen over there, to HUMANS, everyday, then you should be ashamed of yourself.
Renorei wrote:And that's even assuming that the video is real.
Renorei wrote:If you watch the video without the sound, it seems to me like the puppy was already dead. Think about it: it doesn't move...AT ALL...when he's holding it by the scruff of the neck. Also, there's one moment a few seconds before he throws it that the body looks quite lopsided...the way a body looks when it's been lying dead on its side for a while. I'm a dog breeder and I've held a lot of puppies by the scruffs of their necks. They don't just hang there. They squirm and make noises.
Furthermore, what are the odds of finding a LIVE puppy out in the middle of the searing hot desert? Not too good. It's much more likely that you'd find a dead one. A puppy couldn't live long in that heat without water.
Then why do we burry our dead? Why not let them rot on the side of the road. Oh wait....we don't because we are civilized human beings!! We DO care EVEN after death.Renorei wrote:Throwing a live puppy off a cliff is reprehensible, I agree...but a dead one? Who cares? Maybe it's just me, but I feel no reverence for dead bodies. It's just an empty container.
All wars are pointless. Even if the war in Iraq ends...another will start up somewhere and we'll get involved. We are ALL innocent people. Innocent until someone takes away our life or loved ones. It could be that drunk driver. That suicidal maniac that decides to take students lives before his own. That robber that killed several people over a pack of smokes. The people who decided to ram a passenger jet into a crowded building!!Renorei wrote:So stop going apesh*t over this, guys. If you want to get mad over something, get mad about the fact that our soldiers are dying in a pointless war and slaughtering innocent people.
