Werewolves and saliva

Figarou · Post by **Figarou** » Mon Jun 27, 2005 2:53 pm

Silverclaw wrote:Beetlejuice! Beetlejuice! Beetlejuice!

showtime!!!

Kavik · Post by **Kavik** » Mon Jun 27, 2005 9:28 pm

Figarou wrote:
Silverclaw wrote:Beetlejuice! Beetlejuice! Beetlejuice!

showtime!!!

I'm the ghost with the most, babes!

Apokryltaros · Post by **Apokryltaros** » Mon Jun 27, 2005 11:38 pm

Fun Fact...
"Beetlejuice" is derived from "Betelgeuse," a corruption of what was thought to be "Bait al-Jauza," or "Armpit of the Central One." Actually, Arab astronomers originally called it "Yad al-Jauza," or "Hand of the Central One," but, someone was either careless, or sloppy in their handwriting, and that was compounded by knowitall Renaissance scholars who really didn't know much...

Figarou · Post by **Figarou** » Tue Jun 28, 2005 3:19 am

Apokryltaros wrote:Fun Fact...
"Beetlejuice" is derived from "Betelgeuse," a corruption of what was thought to be "Bait al-Jauza," or "Armpit of the Central One." Actually, Arab astronomers originally called it "Yad al-Jauza," or "Hand of the Central One," but, someone was either careless, or sloppy in their handwriting, and that was compounded by knowitall Renaissance scholars who really didn't know much...

I love it when we go off topic. You get to learn something new.

Kavik · Post by **Kavik** » Sun Jul 03, 2005 9:13 pm

Figarou wrote:
Apokryltaros wrote:Fun Fact...
"Beetlejuice" is derived from "Betelgeuse," a corruption of what was thought to be "Bait al-Jauza," or "Armpit of the Central One." Actually, Arab astronomers originally called it "Yad al-Jauza," or "Hand of the Central One," but, someone was either careless, or sloppy in their handwriting, and that was compounded by knowitall Renaissance scholars who really didn't know much...
I love it when we go off topic. You get to learn something new.

Still on-topic for me, in a way. Back in 1990 I was a werewolf for Halloween, and I used a Betelguise-inspired voice and personality.

And to really take it full circle, I myself am both careless and sloppy!

(as should be obvious from my misspelling of Betelgeuse!)

Lupin · Post by **Lupin** » Mon Jul 18, 2005 10:38 am

Figarou wrote:
Ozone Grif wrote:And true, in Van Hellsing, he was showering

Thats why I brought this up. I know dogs foam at the mouth from excessive barking and growling. That 1st werewolf in Van Helsing wasn't doing that.

Well, to be fair, when we see the first werewolf, he was expecting a meal.

Apokryltaros · Post by **Apokryltaros** » Mon Jul 18, 2005 10:43 am

Lupin wrote:
Figarou wrote:
Ozone Grif wrote:And true, in Van Hellsing, he was showering

Thats why I brought this up. I know dogs foam at the mouth from excessive barking and growling. That 1st werewolf in Van Helsing wasn't doing that.
Well, to be fair, when we see the first werewolf, he was expecting a meal.

I can just imagine a scene in Freeborn, where the werewolf in human form rings a doorbell, and suddenly starts drooling uncontrollably.

Figarou · Post by **Figarou** » Mon Jul 18, 2005 10:59 am

Apokryltaros wrote: I can just imagine a scene in Freeborn, where the werewolf in human form rings a doorbell, and suddenly starts drooling uncontrollably.

I wonder what he will do if he hears the sound of a can opener.

Lupin · Post by **Lupin** » Mon Jul 18, 2005 11:01 am

Figarou wrote:I wonder what he will do if he hears the sound of a can opener.

You know the commercials with the Kool-Aid man? Probably something along those lines.

Apokryltaros · Post by **Apokryltaros** » Mon Jul 18, 2005 11:06 am

Lupin wrote:
Figarou wrote:I wonder what he will do if he hears the sound of a can opener.

You know the commercials with the Kool-Aid man? Probably something along those lines.

"That's the 5th wall this week! And over what? Tuna fish!"

Figarou · Post by **Figarou** » Mon Jul 18, 2005 11:17 am

Lupin wrote:
Figarou wrote:I wonder what he will do if he hears the sound of a can opener.

You know the commercials with the Kool-Aid man? Probably something along those lines.

That would make a funny scene in a werewolf movie.

A dog owner opening a can of dog food, but instead of the dog running in, a werewolf comes crashing through the wall with its tail wagging.

Shadow Wulf · Post by **Shadow Wulf** » Mon Jul 18, 2005 11:20 am

Figarou wrote:
Lupin wrote:
Figarou wrote:I wonder what he will do if he hears the sound of a can opener.

You know the commercials with the Kool-Aid man? Probably something along those lines.

That would make a funny scene in a werewolf movie.

A dog owner opening a can of dog food, but instead of the dog running in, a werewolf comes crashing through the wall with its tail wagging.

No wait! that kibbles n bits commercial, where the dog eats the food and starts dancing, only instead of a dog, its a werewolf start break dancing or doing the disco

Figarou · Post by **Figarou** » Mon Jul 18, 2005 11:24 am

Shadow Wulf wrote: No wait! that kibbles n bits commercial, where the dog eats the food and starts dancing, only instead of a dog, its a werewolf start break dancing or doing the disco

Ooooookaaaaay

Lupin · Post by **Lupin** » Mon Jul 18, 2005 11:24 am

Figarou wrote: That would make a funny scene in a werewolf movie.

A dog owner opening a can of dog food, but instead of the dog running in, a werewolf comes crashing through the wall with its tail wagging.

Heh, I could see that, comlete with the werewolf losing traction on the kitchen floor and skidding a bit like dogs do.

Shadow Wulf · Post by **Shadow Wulf** » Mon Jul 18, 2005 11:27 am

Figarou wrote:
Shadow Wulf wrote: No wait! that kibbles n bits commercial, where the dog eats the food and starts dancing, only instead of a dog, its a werewolf start break dancing or doing the disco

Ooooookaaaaay

pssshhh, Adults sense of humor.

Figarou · Post by **Figarou** » Mon Jul 18, 2005 11:35 am

Lupin wrote:
Figarou wrote: That would make a funny scene in a werewolf movie.

A dog owner opening a can of dog food, but instead of the dog running in, a werewolf comes crashing through the wall with its tail wagging.
Heh, I could see that, comlete with the werewolf losing traction on the kitchen floor and skidding a bit like dogs do.

And while the werewolf is losing traction, the dog owner looks at the can of dog food and notices this phrase.

"Packed with protein for strong muscles."

Kavik · Post by **Kavik** » Mon Jul 18, 2005 1:01 pm

Figarou wrote:"Packed with protein for strong muscles."

"Werewolves don't know it's not bacon!"

Shadow Wulf · Post by **Shadow Wulf** » Mon Jul 18, 2005 2:52 pm

then the owner starts talking all cute and says "you think im spoiling huh, but its good for you to"

Lupin · Post by **Lupin** » Mon Jul 18, 2005 2:55 pm

Kavik wrote:"Werewolves don't know it's not bacon!"

Just as long as there's no camera view with the werewolf's nose at bottom of the screen.

Anubis · Post by **Anubis** » Mon Jul 18, 2005 5:30 pm

werewolf-ITS BACON!!!!!!!!!

sorry i couldn't resiest

Jamie · Post by **Jamie** » Mon Jul 18, 2005 8:53 pm

I was wondering if we are going to see the werewolf drool all over the place when in Gestalt form. I'm not saying I want to see it or that I don't want to see it. Just wondering.

The 1st werewolf in Van Helsing had saliva pouring out of its mouth. I'm not sure why. Maybe hollywood thinks it looks cool to see a werewolf slobber all over the place. I didn't notice the 3rd werewolf slobbering at all.

I believe that one reason Hollywood started this idea is because most monster costumes had mouth interiors that looked unrealistic. The mouth interior is consistently the weakest part of monster costumes. One of the obvious differences between a costume mouth and a real mouth is that a real mouth looks wet inside. So you ladle some goo in there. If Freeborn has any scenes with costume or animatronic werewolves with the mouths open, they will need to put some wetness in there.
However, it should just be painted on the surfaces shortly before each take, not lobbed on by the bucket. And you certainly shouldn't put in enough that it is slithering out all the time. Also, standard Hollywood monster spit doesn't look real to me, unless it is on an alien, because we all know that spit doesn't really look like that. Something like egg whites, painted on in a THIN layer, would give the right look.

Kavik · Post by **Kavik** » Wed Jul 20, 2005 8:50 am

Jamie wrote:I believe that one reason Hollywood started this idea is because most monster costumes had mouth interiors that looked unrealistic. The mouth interior is consistently the weakest part of monster costumes. One of the obvious differences between a costume mouth and a real mouth is that a real mouth looks wet inside. So you ladle some goo in there. If Freeborn has any scenes with costume or animatronic werewolves with the mouths open, they will need to put some wetness in there.
However, it should just be painted on the surfaces shortly before each take, not lobbed on by the bucket. And you certainly shouldn't put in enough that it is slithering out all the time. Also, standard Hollywood monster spit doesn't look real to me, unless it is on an alien, because we all know that spit doesn't really look like that. Something like egg whites, painted on in a THIN layer, would give the right look.

Some keen observations, Jamie!

I'd never really thought that much about what goes into a movie monster's mouth (pun intented).

Doruk Golcu · Post by **Doruk Golcu** » Wed Jul 20, 2005 12:46 pm

Shadow Wulf wrote:
Figarou wrote:
Shadow Wulf wrote: No wait! that kibbles n bits commercial, where the dog eats the food and starts dancing, only instead of a dog, its a werewolf start break dancing or doing the disco

Ooooookaaaaay
pssshhh, Adults sense of humor.

Something like this, maybe? http://feros.furry.com.br/gallery/were/ ... fdance.jpg

Lupin · Post by **Lupin** » Wed Jul 20, 2005 12:51 pm

Doruk Golcu wrote:Something like this, maybe? http://feros.furry.com.br/gallery/were/ ... fdance.jpg

Werewolves dancing, now there's an intersting mental image.

Fenrir · Post by **Fenrir** » Wed Jul 20, 2005 12:56 pm

and painful, what if they steped on your foot, ouch!