(yep, that's a good reason, miguel, just pointing out a statement.
Any ideas for blocking a hurricane
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I still lean more towards building residences and cities in such a way as to be less susceptible to the natural disasters when they arrive, rather than actually trying to prevent the hurricane, sorta like Fig's ideas and the one I mentioned in my earlier post.
And please people, don't go around preaching that people shouldn't live in N.O. because of the frequency of hurricanes. That's like saying no one should live in the west because of earthquakes, no one should live in the plains because of tornadoes, no one should live in Hawaii because of volcanoes, and no one should live in the North because of blizzards. Natural disasters happen everywhere. No place is immune. If we only lived in places that were free of natural disaster we'd have practically no space to live. Don't hope for new disasters, in which homes will be lost and people will die. Rather than hoping for something like that, hope for new advances in technology and developments in building that will make it safer to live in such places.
And please people, don't go around preaching that people shouldn't live in N.O. because of the frequency of hurricanes. That's like saying no one should live in the west because of earthquakes, no one should live in the plains because of tornadoes, no one should live in Hawaii because of volcanoes, and no one should live in the North because of blizzards. Natural disasters happen everywhere. No place is immune. If we only lived in places that were free of natural disaster we'd have practically no space to live. Don't hope for new disasters, in which homes will be lost and people will die. Rather than hoping for something like that, hope for new advances in technology and developments in building that will make it safer to live in such places.
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You only have to worry about volcanic activity if you live on the big island. All of the other islands are extinct.Excelsia wrote:And please people, don't go around preaching that people shouldn't live in N.O. because of the frequency of hurricanes. That's like saying no one should live in the west because of earthquakes, no one should live in the plains because of tornadoes, no one should live in Hawaii because of volcanoes, and no one should live in the North because of blizzards.
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Lupin wrote:You only have to worry about volcanic activity if you live on the big island. All of the other islands are extinct.Excelsia wrote:And please people, don't go around preaching that people shouldn't live in N.O. because of the frequency of hurricanes. That's like saying no one should live in the west because of earthquakes, no one should live in the plains because of tornadoes, no one should live in Hawaii because of volcanoes, and no one should live in the North because of blizzards.
Well, you get the point.
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Excelsia wrote:I still lean more towards building residences and cities in such a way as to be less susceptible to the natural disasters when they arrive, rather than actually trying to prevent the hurricane, sorta like Fig's ideas and the one I mentioned in my earlier post.
And please people, don't go around preaching that people shouldn't live in N.O. because of the frequency of hurricanes. That's like saying no one should live in the west because of earthquakes, no one should live in the plains because of tornadoes, no one should live in Hawaii because of volcanoes, and no one should live in the North because of blizzards. Natural disasters happen everywhere. No place is immune. If we only lived in places that were free of natural disaster we'd have practically no space to live. Don't hope for new disasters, in which homes will be lost and people will die. Rather than hoping for something like that, hope for new advances in technology and developments in building that will make it safer to live in such places.
Who knows what type of new disaster can happen. Weather and the earth itself is so unpredictable. I bet in the future, an area will suffer from 150 degree heat. Or a new volcano can pop up out of nowhere. A sink hole can probably swallow a city. Or a heavy populated area may not get any more rain and it becomes a desert.
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Heh. I only knew that because my mom comes from Hawaii, and so most of my extended family lives there.Excelsia wrote:Lupin wrote:You only have to worry about volcanic activity if you live on the big island. All of the other islands are extinct.
Well, you get the point.. If I ever open a business and need to hire a guy to take care of small but important details, I'm calling you.
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I predict that in the future, a werewolf will have duckies tossed at him by Fig.Figarou wrote:Who knows what type of new disaster can happen. Weather and the earth itself is so unpredictable. I bet in the future, an area will suffer from 150 degree heat. Or a new volcano can pop up out of nowhere. A sink hole can probably swallow a city. Or a heavy populated area may not get any more rain and it becomes a desert.
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Figarou wrote: Who knows what type of new disaster can happen. Weather and the earth itself is so unpredictable. I bet in the future, an area will suffer from 150 degree heat. Or a new volcano can pop up out of nowhere. A sink hole can probably swallow a city. Or a heavy populated area may not get any more rain and it becomes a desert.
There was a rumor a while back that Oregon and a significant portion of the west coast was going to fall into the ocean. I haven't heard much about it lately, so I'm guessing it wasn't true.
There was also an article on Yahoo News about a solar-system eating 'chaos cloud' that was headed right for earth, which would strike in 2014. It was basically a cloud that destroyed everything in its path. But, I'm pretty sure that's not true, since Yahoo got the story from one of those seedy tabloids (Granted, all tabloids are seedy. But this one wasn't even as good as Enquirer or Star...).
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Lupin wrote:I predict that in the future, a werewolf will have duckies tossed at him by Fig.Figarou wrote:Who knows what type of new disaster can happen. Weather and the earth itself is so unpredictable. I bet in the future, an area will suffer from 150 degree heat. Or a new volcano can pop up out of nowhere. A sink hole can probably swallow a city. Or a heavy populated area may not get any more rain and it becomes a desert.
Are you a werewolf? If so, I have one with your name on it.
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I think there are western parts of the US that are sitting on the pacific plate. But I'm not sure which parts they are, or where they're going. Not that it matters, we'll all be dead long before they get there.Excelsia wrote:There was a rumor a while back that Oregon and a significant portion of the west coast was going to fall into the ocean. I haven't heard much about it lately, so I'm guessing it wasn't true.
I'd be more worried about the volcano under Yellowstone.
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The west coast would break off due to a magnitude 9 or 10 earthquake. The SAN ANDREAS fault runs from Washington down to the western part of Nevada and California. If such a event was to occur it would take the United States over 20 years to make the USA completly functional once again. The total cost would be over 200 billion dollars. Again though the East coast has the threat of a 200 foot tidal wave we should be okay. The south coast has the threat of hurricanes and the Northern tip has the threat of...........i'll get back to you. Anyway i'm just explaining the earthquake problem. 
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Tornadoes, Blizzards, Plain-Old Severe Electrical Storms, Flooding, and...of course...ICE.Miguel wrote:and the Northern tip has the threat of...........i'll get back to you.
(Don't laugh...have you ever seen absolutely everything coated with an 8th of an inch of ice or more? ...it's freaky. Powerlines snap just from being too heavy, doors and windows get sealed shut, it is impossible to walk, let alone DRIVE...and of course, there's the cold)
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I've been in ice storms before. No, not up north. Here in dinky little SC. Snapped a few trees in half. (They were pines, but still...) Made for some neat pictures though.Vuldari wrote:(Don't laugh...have you ever seen absolutely everything coated with an 8th of an inch of ice or more? ...it's freaky. Powerlines snap just from being too heavy, doors and windows get sealed shut, it is impossible to walk, let alone DRIVE...and of course, there's the cold)
Why is everyone so dead set against hurricanes? We freakin' need them. If there weren't anymore hurricanes then this part of the US would become the next Sahara. (Which used to be a rainforest in case you didn't know.) SC has been having a bit of a drought lately because all the hurricanes are going west and not heading our way. My horses have absolutely no grass in their pen, everything is about dead, it's been hotter than hell lately and we need some rain! The only way to get rain around here is from a hurricane. I'm hoping for one to head this way before everything kicks the bucket for good. Miguel you live here, surely you know how hot and miserable it's been. (Especially being farther south than I am.) The rain would water all the plants, cool everything off, and generally make life a little less miserable. So why are you so determined to get rid of the very things that allow life here to exist?
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Reilune knows what I'm talking about...Reilune wrote:I've been in ice storms before. No, not up north. Here in dinky little SC. Snapped a few trees in half. (They were pines, but still...) Made for some neat pictures though.Vuldari wrote:(Don't laugh...have you ever seen absolutely everything coated with an 8th of an inch of ice or more? ...it's freaky. Powerlines snap just from being too heavy, doors and windows get sealed shut, it is impossible to walk, let alone DRIVE...and of course, there's the cold)
Why is everyone so dead set against hurricanes? We freakin' need them. If there weren't anymore hurricanes then this part of the US would become the next Sahara. (Which used to be a rainforest in case you didn't know.) SC has been having a bit of a drought lately because all the hurricanes are going west and not heading our way. My horses have absolutely no grass in their pen, everything is about dead, it's been hotter than hell lately and we need some rain! The only way to get rain around here is from a hurricane. I'm hoping for one to head this way before everything kicks the bucket for good. Miguel you live here, surely you know how hot and miserable it's been. (Especially being farther south than I am.) The rain would water all the plants, cool everything off, and generally make life a little less miserable. So why are you so determined to get rid of the very things that allow life here to exist?

And you're right. It's naive to think that all of these things we refer to as Natural "Disasters" serve no benificial purpose.
Also,Hurricanes...Forest fires(naturally occuring ones)...volcanoes...if these things stopped occuring regularly around the world to stir things up and *refresh the landscape (*often requiring everything to be broken down and the ecosystems made to start over from scratch), then the world would slowly grow sick and die. The aftermaths of the world most Violent "natural" disasters eventually result in the most raw and fertile landscapes on the planet. Just as even the most well constructed home or building will eventually wear out and need to be torn down and re-constructed, so does nature need to wipe the slate clean and re-start its ecosystems every few hundred/thousand/million years or so. It is a natural cycle that is neccesary to continue for the world to survive for the next million years.
We've really just got to learn to "roll with the punches". ...grit our teeth and take a painful hit today, for it is really all for the ensurement of a better tomorrow for our decendants.
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Vuldari wrote:Tornadoes, Blizzards, Plain-Old Severe Electrical Storms, Flooding, and...of course...ICE.Miguel wrote:and the Northern tip has the threat of...........i'll get back to you.
(Don't laugh...have you ever seen absolutely everything coated with an 8th of an inch of ice or more? ...it's freaky. Powerlines snap just from being too heavy, doors and windows get sealed shut, it is impossible to walk, let alone DRIVE...and of course, there's the cold)
Ice....
Several forms of that can happen. You can have water that freezes on the ground in cold weather. Lots of tiny ice particals collecting on the ground. (Snow) And then there is damaging hail stones.
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If the Yellowstone volcano blows before 2008 or so, my novel will have to get rewritten--AGAIN. Not that that would be the main casualty, mind you.
Having skedaddled from two hurricanes, and having just gotten back from the second evacuation earlier today, I've had some brain storms of my own. One is a gigantic cyclone disrupter device, perhaps a hundred miles in diameter, resembling a starfish with giant downward-facing fans, each perhaps ten or more miles in diameter. It floats out to see until it is centered under the eye of the storm. It then spins the fans and levitates upward, turning clockwise inside the storm, and pushing against the eye wall, weakening its force.
Would it work? I'd have to ask a 26th century engineer. Someone from today probably would insist it wouldn't be able to fly. But, I'll hold out and see what carbon nanotechnology makes possible in terms of light weight material.
Having skedaddled from two hurricanes, and having just gotten back from the second evacuation earlier today, I've had some brain storms of my own. One is a gigantic cyclone disrupter device, perhaps a hundred miles in diameter, resembling a starfish with giant downward-facing fans, each perhaps ten or more miles in diameter. It floats out to see until it is centered under the eye of the storm. It then spins the fans and levitates upward, turning clockwise inside the storm, and pushing against the eye wall, weakening its force.
Would it work? I'd have to ask a 26th century engineer. Someone from today probably would insist it wouldn't be able to fly. But, I'll hold out and see what carbon nanotechnology makes possible in terms of light weight material.
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