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Fenrir · Post by **Fenrir** » Tue Apr 04, 2006 9:38 pm

......This forum is growing exponentially, I have not been posting alot lately, because IAM READING ALL THESE POSTS!!! I am starting to feel outdated, I have seen less and less of the people Iam used to seeing, until, like wolvenone, they cease to post anything. I am terrified of what will happen, eventually this forum will become too crowded. Now I am starting to see people I have no idea who the hell they are. I remember whne I used to get scolded for getting off topic, now I see all these people getting off topic and the regulars and Moderators to tell them to stop it. Is it just my paranoia or is this forum getting really big.....Good job guys keep spreading the word

but seriously is it just me?

Apokryltaros · Post by **Apokryltaros** » Tue Apr 04, 2006 9:40 pm

Yes.
It's just you.
Have a duck.

Fenrir · Post by **Fenrir** » Tue Apr 04, 2006 9:42 pm

is that the chicken from looney toons

Apokryltaros · Post by **Apokryltaros** » Tue Apr 04, 2006 9:44 pm

No, that's a roast duck.

Fenrir · Post by **Fenrir** » Tue Apr 04, 2006 10:01 pm

Still looks like chicken

Anubis · Post by **Anubis** » Tue Apr 04, 2006 10:15 pm

mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm chicken *drools*

Terastas · Post by **Terastas** » Tue Apr 04, 2006 11:10 pm

I know there was a brief burst in activity and membership registration when Pack pendants and casting calls were announced (damn bottom feeders

), but I'm not sure that the forum itself has been increasing in activity. On the contrary, to me it sometimes feels like we're just trying to keep busy while we wait for news on Freeborn's development. Then again, I don't compulsively visit each and every forum, so it's possible that I could be missing a few things going on here.

Timber-WoIf · Post by **Timber-WoIf** » Wed Apr 05, 2006 4:58 pm

yea... i don't think its crowded...
may have been a few peeps who posted a coupla times thin dissapeared, but... yea... just u i think

Searif · Post by **Searif** » Wed Apr 05, 2006 6:07 pm

I have not been posting much myself either, mainly cause I got to this site to keep myself updated, but still post one and a while

Renorei · Post by **Renorei** » Wed Apr 05, 2006 9:24 pm

I think I agree with Fenrir. This place is getting rather crowded. This is, in my opinion, why:

-Wow! A werewolf movie is doing casting calls! (<---as Terastas said) Even though I'm not familiar with the project and haven't devoted any time to posting my thoughts on the forum, I think I'll try out!

-Hey! Free pendants! (<---as Terastas said) I think I'll come out of lurking and join so I can get a free one, even though I haven't contributed to the forum at all!

-DUDE! This director guy is letting us read the script for his movie!! I could be one of a handful of people in the nation who read this script before it comes out. I think I'll join the forum and ask to read the script and hope to get randomly chosen, even though everyone knows I don't really deserve to read it, since I haven't really contributed all that much to The Pack.

Anyway, these are the things that I think have contributed to the sudden growth in membership.

Scott Gardener · Post by **Scott Gardener** » Wed Apr 05, 2006 11:08 pm

Possibly, I'm sure at least a few newbies have joined for the gimmicks, but I also think time has allowed word of mouth to grow, and we're getting a lot of genuine interest by both werewolf fans out of the horror genre and those of us from the other end--therians, spiritualists, and the like, who want to see at least once something other than a pure-horror angle. (OK, so there was Teen Wolf, but just twice would we like to see it...)

Not that I'd dismiss either the pendant or the complete script of the movie as a mere "gimmick"--both I have considered deeply prized gifts--but, the point being giving out goodies tends to draw a crowd hoping for stuff. I hope Brownrigg's dartboard selection process is selective enough not to put the script potentially into the hands of someone who would drop it willy-nilly onto a P2P network; that could seriously jeopardize getting the thing made. Of course, I'm one to talk, Mr. here's a link to my novel right below in my .sig.

Kirk Hammett · Post by **Kirk Hammett** » Thu Apr 06, 2006 5:32 am

Blah...I joined last year and then spent half a year jamming every single day from 11am to 10pm. Andy and I got sort of ill from it, then I had to go to Uni and he got three jobs. Then I got sick of Uni (I didn't leave, just sort of stopped caring and still barely care) and came back onto the internet. Besides, half my Uni research is online, (For assignments) and I multi task. Thats how I get my assignments done!

So I'm back now. Gimmick free, haven't looked at the scripts because it'll ruin it for me, and still writing probably now useless information about 'What a werewolf should be' but I enjoy the opinions and stuff. Where else do I find werewolf fans? I mean honestly, I know none where I live. It's a lonely thing, because I'm more of an offline person than an online one; I prefer face to face conversation, but I'm grateful for finding friends online who are into similar interests.

And also such great emoticons.

I'm still trying to doggedly promote Freeborn in Australia. It's not going far. Any ideas

there's just hardly any Australian Freeborn fans! If anyone can give me information on whether it's likely it'll come out and whether I should ask someone to stick some posters up (And the website addresses, hopefully free of gimmick seekers) at the cinemas. Off topic I know.

Renorei · Post by **Renorei** » Thu Apr 06, 2006 9:54 am

@Scott

Just to make myself clear, I wasn't suggesting that the pendant or the script or anything else were gimmicks to get more members. I know AB chose to give us the pendants to show appreciation for all the input we've given, and that he's choosing to let us read the script because he wants us to see what he's done with all of our suggestions.

But, inevitably, with things like this will come leeches. Some people just have no shame, when it comes to free handouts.

Shadow Wulf · Post by **Shadow Wulf** » Thu Apr 06, 2006 10:00 am

Thier actually have been a newbie that has joined and got the script after only 2 or 3 months of being a member. I think AB should really be more careful when handleing out the script. As for the Site, I dont think its being that much crowded, shure alot of people joined but not every post as often as others.

Terastas · Post by **Terastas** » Thu Apr 06, 2006 10:42 am

Renorei wrote:I think I agree with Fenrir. This place is getting rather crowded. This is, in my opinion, why:

-Wow! A werewolf movie is doing casting calls! (<---as Terastas said) Even though I'm not familiar with the project and haven't devoted any time to posting my thoughts on the forum, I think I'll try out!

-Hey! Free pendants! (<---as Terastas said) I think I'll come out of lurking and join so I can get a free one, even though I haven't contributed to the forum at all!

-DUDE! This director guy is letting us read the script for his movie!! I could be one of a handful of people in the nation who read this script before it comes out. I think I'll join the forum and ask to read the script and hope to get randomly chosen, even though everyone knows I don't really deserve to read it, since I haven't really contributed all that much to The Pack.

Anyway, these are the things that I think have contributed to the sudden growth in membership.

My favorite single-digit poster's request from the casting call: "Could you shoot the movie in Finland?" I don't know what it is that makes some people think the word 'please' will get them anything

We're probably going to see more spikes in activity in the future, especially if the Pack remains Freeborn's selling point. It is true that as Freeborn continues to gain publicity, other netizens with honest interests in the nature of werewolves will try to contribute as well, but I think we'll see a lot more people register, p-shift, ask for pendants, and then disappear than not.

Renorei · Post by **Renorei** » Fri Apr 07, 2006 12:03 am

Shadow Wulf wrote:Thier actually have been a newbie that has joined and got the script after only 2 or 3 months of being a member. I think AB should really be more careful when handleing out the script. As for the Site, I dont think its being that much crowded, shure alot of people joined but not every post as often as others.

There has been one person who had less than twenty posts who was allowed to read it, and one person who had less than sixty who was allowed to read it. All before lots of other users who have hundreds more, have been dedicated to the pack for months, and have contributed heavily to the pack's 'knowledge base'. I definitely agree with Shadow Wulf that AB should be more careful.

Quite frankly, I don't think the selection should be random at all. I think it should be based on how much you've contributed to the pack (which is not directly related to post count or join date, but often correllates...though not all the time. There are some people in this pack who have massive numbers of posts, but have actually said very little than can be helpful, and vice versa). AB and Silver are both around here often enough to get an idea of who contributes and who doesn't.

But of course, it isn't my script, and I have no right to decide how the distribution is handled. But I don't think I'm entirely unjustified in being a little bit unhappy that someone just showed up to the pack, barely contributed, and got to read it before I did.

I also find myself wondering about the first group of pack members who got to read it...these members were all people who had clearly contributed a lot to the pack, and the selection of these people certainly didn't seem random. In fact, if I were handing out the script, these are probably the people I would have chosen to read it first too. So why deliberatly choose people for the first group, and then do it randomly in all the others? Something about that just doesn't seem right.

Kirk Hammett · Post by **Kirk Hammett** » Fri Apr 07, 2006 7:02 am

I don't think I want to be selected for the script, if he's going through with it, as it's already 2006, then I don't think I have anything to say anyway. It's his movie not mine

. And I couldn't make it any better or give much critical analysis, and I'd want to wait for the movie before reading the storyline.

As for newbies, most show up and don't even post. Anybody seen the huge list of signups with no posts?

It's massive!

Scott Gardener · Post by **Scott Gardener** » Fri Apr 07, 2006 8:25 am

Quick disclaimer: I never meant to suggest or imply that the gifts were "gimmicks." As said, I deeply treasure both personally. Rather, they could be perceived as such by those who are looking for some.

Still, I think pretty much all of our new traffic and newcomers, aside from a few spambots, are very legitimate and welcome people. The potential for freeloaders is there, but so far, so good.

Kirk Hammett · Post by **Kirk Hammett** » Sat Apr 08, 2006 4:23 am

On the other hand, Scott is right, I guess the board needs newbies, and people to flood in; the more, the merrier, the more likely they will promote the film I suppose. The more likely people will say 'Yes, we will show this, it will sell'.

Herpscott · Post by **Herpscott** » Sat Apr 08, 2006 3:41 pm

I am a newbie, and I have requested a pendant and would love to be chosen to read the script although I think I would decline to read it - I am with Kirk on this one, SURPRISE ME! In light of all that, I hope that I can contribute to this forum. I want to. I joined long before I ever posted just to read and find out what the place was about. I am a werewolf fan on many levels and I sincerely can't wait to see what this becomes. Also though, there are many that are shy. There are many negative connotations that can arise from being a frequent forum poster. "You have no life", "Get a real friend" etc etc.

I hope I don't sound too insulted, I am not that way, but I am bummed that I came later and am looked upon as inferior and won't contribute. Granted, those that came from the beginning have contributed the most and in all likelihood, they wrote the script. (I don't mean the AB didn't, I just mean that he and his crew wrote it with all the suggestions of early Pack members) But, I hope to contribute to the forum and the community of werewolf fans be it they are therians (me), horror nuts (not so much me but sometimes) or role-playing people (not me.)

Just venting - pay me no nevermind!

Renorei · Post by **Renorei** » Sat Apr 08, 2006 3:53 pm

Herpscott

Being a new person in and of itself isn't what bothers me. What bothers me is some people do in fact contribute little and still want to read the script, be part of the cast, or get a pendant. If a new person shows up and becomes a dedicated member of the forum, hoorah for them.

But, as far as the script goes, I'll be the first to say that I wasn't one of the first pack members. I joined in July 2005, but there were some people who joined as early as December of 2004.

I don't think that joined date and number of posts alone should be the deciding factors of who gets to read the script. Mainly, I think it should be the impression that the Brownriggs have gotten of one's level of contribution. As I've said before, Goldenwolf has a very small number of posts, but has contributed more to Freeborn than most of the rest of us ever will. I definitely don't think that it should be decided randomly...or if it is decided randomly, the criteria to be a part of the 'random pool' should be upped substantially, IMO.

But anyway, these are just my thoughts. It's AB and Silver's script, so it's up to them to handle it as they wish.

wolfbound · Post by **wolfbound** » Sat Apr 08, 2006 4:31 pm

its all out of fun. but i do agree with you Fenrir.
i do like the places where you have more friends then random post

outwarddoodles · Post by **outwarddoodles** » Sat Apr 08, 2006 10:06 pm

Huh, I'm noticing a lot of new faces here also, but I'm also very welcoming of them and their new input. I don't think there's been that much of an increase of newer members, though.

But don't worry, I'm sure we'll get quite a bit more people near Freeborn's release.

Yet for now, I just think the Pack's slowing down at bit, as Terastas said, it feels like we're just trying to keep busy while we wait for news on Freeborn. For now, most of us had put in our ideas, and had thoroughly discussed a lot of werewolf related topics. We're just puckered out and are looking for something to do until something new comes along in the development of Freeborn.

Quite frankly, I don't think the selection should be random at all. I think it should be based on how much you've contributed to the pack (which is not directly related to post count or join date, but often correllates...though not all the time. There are some people in this pack who have massive numbers of posts, but have actually said very little than can be helpful, and vice versa). AB and Silver are both around here often enough to get an idea of who contributes and who doesn't.

I don't think that would be a good idea, actually. Mainly because you're asking Anthony to list out everyone on their contribution to The Pack -- which would be a very subjective and difficult task. I'm doubtful it's something our already busy Director could manage to do. So, his Solution? Set down a few rules, and start randomly picking people from there. If I were him, I'd probably of done the same.

Kirk Hammett · Post by **Kirk Hammett** » Sun Apr 09, 2006 5:25 am

Also though, there are many that are shy. There are many negative connotations that can arise from being a frequent forum poster. "You have no life", "Get a real friend" etc etc.

Haha you're very right there, there's a lot of idiots who say that to you. Yet I'm not much of an internet person. I think all of us here have complex lives off the net. I know I do. Im sure we all have jobs and Uni/school/college or whatever America/overseas calls Uni, we have social lives and friends. But this is also a social event, this board. People who say that to you actually have no lives themselves and frequent the internet more than they do anything else.

We're on here to chat, make friends, and help promote a movie!

Which I wish the best to very much! And I'm I guess I'd say a newbie myself. Ive only recently found the time to go online at all.

I went off topic my apologies. Well, basically Im just glad to be here with some werewolf friends, regardless of a pendant or a script, which isnt what matters. What also matters is getting the film to the world. Which I intend to help do!

I think it's brilliant Anthony and co are 'rewarding' The Pack for what they've done, but I want to make a contribution in order to earn it, I suppose. So yeah I don't think newbieness matters either.

Haha but those freeloaders...shame on them! Don't worry Herpscott I don't think you're at all a freeloader either

Guys if I repeated myself 50 times, Im sorry.

Scott Gardener · Post by **Scott Gardener** » Sun Apr 09, 2006 8:43 am

It might also be that some of the people with only a few posts but a copy of the script may have been contributing or in contact by other channels unknown to us. I met a few people at A-Kon at the Cashel Entertainment stand, who had a lot of interaction and a lot to say, but who have only appeared here briefly afterwards, only to disappear again.

Or, maybe they're aliens with mind control lasers in orbit.

Either way, to the Brownriggs I would only have to say: you know what you doing; take off every Zig.

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