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Yeah, I know, it sounds cool but you don't want to be down with this bunch.

I'm getting the word out on a new Xtian fundamentalist youth group called Battle Cry (I <i><b>will not</i></b> call them Christian, they're NOT Christian). They haven't done anything untoward yet, but the way they're talking gets me to thinking that they're entirely capable of Animal Liberation Front, ANSWER, Ruckus Society and possibly even Taliban-level violence.

They call themselves "The Violent Ones," state that Jesus is calling today's youth to arms in the war, called their events "Acquire the Fire," make the girls in their academy wear skirts of a certain length for the same reason the Taliban enforced the burqa, and sow extreme intolerance which is probably the least Christian sentiment you can find. And no, it's not a bunch of inbred slackjawed wife-beaters from the Bible Belt's buckle, it's stadiums full of 18-to-24-year-olds in SAN FRANCISCO AND PHILADELPHIA, to the tune of tens of thousands per event. Here are some bands connected with the movement and who've performed at the Acquire the Fire events:

Pillar
TobyMAC
Delirious
Jeremy Camp

Here's a neutral link where you can read more. I know there's a lot of people in the targeted demographic on this board so this is why I'm giving a heads-up.

http://democrats.com/node/8906

The whole thing just scares the crap out of me. Sure, LiveSTRONG said in so many words they're declaring war on cancer, but cancer's a disease. Blowing people up for Jesus is no better than blowing them up for Mohammed, or any other prophet for that matter.

there wil always been people out there that just don't get it, its just a fact of life, o well we can deal with it, We feel what we feel not what somother person says

Yeah, but extremist groups are hard to deal with, especially when they're planting pipe bombs in your exhaust pipe!

See, I b**** and gripe about idealogues, but for the most part I'm not afraid of them and tolerate their existence. They can say and think what they want as far as I'm concerned. But you gotta be concerned when a group of people refer to themselves as "the Forceful Ones" and equate violence to virtue.

I have no problem with defending myself against whackjobs but I don't want it to come to that.

thats why my dad has 6 guns at ready

Same here, but I think the point of the exercise here is the AVOIDANCE of spilling of blood. Let's just say that I have more dots in my Wisdom pool than in Glory and more Honour than both of them together... (odd for a Theurge...I know...)

it reminds me of the story of a famous jap samuri who was challenged by a younger guy, now he didnt l ike fighting anymore so he told the guy to meet him on a inland in the middle of a lake, once he arrived the older guy left him on teh inland and when asked why he left he said he was sparing one more poor soul

The end times are here.

If only because we'll tear eachother apart before anything else can happen.

Vrikasatma is right. Anyone who thinks or acts in such a manner is NOT Christian. Jesus preached peace, love, and tolerance, not violence and bigotry. Wrath is a sin, and I can think of no finer example of using religion as an excuse than this. (Well...except maybe that psycho woman someone posted about earlier.) According to their beliefs, if they indeed actually believed in what Christianity preaches (which they obviously don't), they're earning themselves a first class ticket to hell. Or the dark ages. They're not much different.

If they want to pull this crap then it should be legal for me to go all Roman on their asses and feed them to some lions. It's only fair.

Thing about people like this is you can't talk to them. You can't reason with them. I've tried. (Sadly, there are a few people like that down here. Most aggravating bastards I've ever met.) No matter what you do or say it doesn't work. Depending on how far these people are going to push it...violence may end up being the only choice.

Ladies and Gentlemen, welcome to the Human race. here you will see people killing eachother for absolutly no good reason! you will see people lying, cheating and stealing. why? because they can! there are a few truely good people in this world, but not many. if you find one hold them close. the fact that they are good makes them weak, and therefor a target for such crimes listed above.

why can't we Allah just get along...?

Oh thank you for the article, I'm quite pleased to know of other's awareness to this 'cause.' I've known of 'Battle Cry' for some time now and was disgusted from the start. And the more I read of it, the worse that feeling becomes.

if you want too see why humans killed each other just because we don't like them i suggest you look at ww1, the war happened because a 3rd world country extremist group(sibera extremists) killed the king of Austra-hungray