Any members here from Wales?....

Templar · Post by **Templar** » Thu Feb 22, 2007 1:21 pm

...more specifically, from Glamorgan, in the area around Mynydd Baedan or Maescadlawr? This is more of a King Arthur-related topic....

White Paw · Post by **White Paw** » Thu Feb 22, 2007 1:21 pm

i think Lupine is from north wales ...i think....ask him....

Templar · Post by **Templar** » Thu Feb 22, 2007 1:26 pm

White Paw wrote:i think Lupine is from north wales ...i think....ask him....

The area I'm talkin about is in SE Wales. Thanks fer the tip, though...

*nagowteena* · Post by ***nagowteena*** » Thu Feb 22, 2007 5:07 pm

Wow, Templar your from Wales? I had no clue. oh... And the best of luck.

Templar · Post by **Templar** » Thu Feb 22, 2007 6:26 pm

Oh, nononono...Heh, beleive me, I'm of celtic ancestry, but I'm not Welsh. I'm Texan born an raised. I'm a historian, an' I love king Arthur.

I just read this book by these two researchers, and while somma their theories are pretty out there (they think Arthur's brother Madoc discovered America about 500 years b/f Erik the Red), but they've found some interesting stuff, like pretty strong evidence that the battle of Badon Hill (the one thing that links the myth of King Arthur to historical reality) was at Mynydd Baedan and two memorial stones with the inscribed name "Artorius" were found in a nearby dig. I'd just like ta hear if any Welsh members knew anything about the history of the Mynydd Baedan/Baidon area.

*nagowteena* · Post by ***nagowteena*** » Thu Feb 22, 2007 6:39 pm

and yet again you suprised me, my felow Texan.

now I see were your at, but unfortunatly, I don't know much about that kind of stuff. so I do hope you find what your looking for.

lupine · Post by **lupine** » Thu Feb 22, 2007 6:40 pm

Hi fella. I don't know a great deal about Arthur and his doings in Cymru but this link might help, haven't really checked it out myself but there is a link on it in the reference coloumn on the left that may help.

Also try wikipedia and this may help http://www.bbc.co.uk/wales/

Templar · Post by **Templar** » Thu Feb 22, 2007 7:09 pm

*nagowteena* wrote: and yet again you suprised me, my felow Texan. now I see were your at, but unfortunatly, I don't know much about that kind of stuff. so I do hope you find what your looking for.

Heheheheh, yep. Everybody in my immediate family was born in west Texas ('cept my dad, he was born in Mississippi). That's why it's great ta listen ta my family's accents during Christmas (my aunt sounds like that squirrel from Spongebob and my uncle's a much smarter version of Larry the Cable Guy)!

Thanks fer the sites, Lupine. Weren't much help, but I 'preciate it nonetheless. There's actually another guy from north Wales some think may have been Arthur: Owain "The Bear (Arth)" and/or his son Cuneglasus. Heck, just 'bout every place in Britain's got a claim ta King Arthur!

lupine · Post by **lupine** » Thu Feb 22, 2007 7:19 pm

Yeah I think your right....Everyone wants a piece o' Arthurs a**

I think he was probably a mish mash of different warriors/swordy blokes, I think the legends been blurred over the years, in a kind of bibley sort of way.
I know cornwall also has a claim on him.

This Owain fella...Was it Glyndwr?

Templar · Post by **Templar** » Thu Feb 22, 2007 7:35 pm

lupine wrote:Yeah I think your right....Everyone wants a piece o' Arthurs a**

I think he was probably a mish mash of different warriors/swordy blokes, I think the legends been blurred over the years, in a kind of bibley sort of way.
I know cornwall also has a claim on him.

This Owain fella...Was it Glyndwr?

Nope. Owain Ddantwyn (think it means White Tooth). He ruled Gwynedd in the late 5th century, and was killed by his nephew, Maelgwyn. Yer probably right 'bout the deeds of many guys being mixed together, but the Arthur, the one that's at the heart of all the myths, is the leader who fought at Badon. That's why I'm so fixed on that battle. The king that these guys Blackett and Wilson say fought at Mynydd Baedan was Athrwys/Arthwys ap Meurig, king of what's now Glamorgan.

lupine · Post by **lupine** » Thu Feb 22, 2007 7:40 pm

Will try and look some stuff up for yuz, can't promise owt tho. will check the library tomorrow if I get chance.

Templar · Post by **Templar** » Fri Feb 23, 2007 12:13 am

Thanks, Lupine. The resources ya got over there in Wales are probably better than what we gots over here across the pond. Been doin some research on Athrwys, an' it seems the major flaw wit that theory's that Athrwys apparently lived a hundred years too late fer the traditional Arthur of Baedan(c.520 CE).

I'm still convinced that Badon Hill was Mynydd Baedan, though. It's got intrenchments, the remains of an old camp, place names (the road leadin' up ta Baedan is "Road to the Tummult" and the field below is the "Field of the Battle Area") local tradition that says a battle was fought there after the time of the Romans, and even tumuli, or mass grave mounds, which were used by the Saxons at that time. In other words, antything you can get me on the local history around Baedan would be greeaaaate. Thanks.

lupine · Post by **lupine** » Sat Feb 24, 2007 1:45 am

Haven't forgotten you matey, It's 6.45 am and I Just got in after a double shift. It will be monday or tuesday now before I get chance to get to town as I'm working again later today, and then i'll be sleeping