Railing against Earth Day
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Dreamer, you don't know any more than i do. You just think you do. You just THINK doctors were paid off because you favor a conspiracy slant. I however, do not think that all our big problems are caused by conspiracies.
and while I'm on the subjest, all 9/11 conspiracy believers need a wake up call. It was angry fundamentalist muslims, NOT the us government.
and while I'm on the subjest, all 9/11 conspiracy believers need a wake up call. It was angry fundamentalist muslims, NOT the us government.
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Howlitzer made some good points.
We....as humans....can control "OUR" actions. We can save water by cutting down. Or help the environment by not littering. Driving less so we won't pollute the air. But we can't control what nature does.
A volcano can erupt and fill the atmosphere with so much ash it could darken the sky. We could all die from it. Maybe not from the ash itself...but the long term effects. Rivers could dry up. We can't grow food cause the sun is blocked. And so on. Maybe thats how the Aztecs disappered. Who knows.
An earthquake can level the city. Or cause a HUGE wave to come a shore and wipe everything out. There is nothing man can do that'll harm this planet. Sure....set off a couple off nuclear bombs in an area. Give it some time and that area will be streaming with life again in the future. Nature itself can do MAJOR damage in a matter of seconds. But in time will heal itself.
We....as humans....can control "OUR" actions. We can save water by cutting down. Or help the environment by not littering. Driving less so we won't pollute the air. But we can't control what nature does.
A volcano can erupt and fill the atmosphere with so much ash it could darken the sky. We could all die from it. Maybe not from the ash itself...but the long term effects. Rivers could dry up. We can't grow food cause the sun is blocked. And so on. Maybe thats how the Aztecs disappered. Who knows.
An earthquake can level the city. Or cause a HUGE wave to come a shore and wipe everything out. There is nothing man can do that'll harm this planet. Sure....set off a couple off nuclear bombs in an area. Give it some time and that area will be streaming with life again in the future. Nature itself can do MAJOR damage in a matter of seconds. But in time will heal itself.
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thats possible.Berserker wrote:I'm pretty sure the Aztecs disappeared when the Spaniards brought rifles, small pox, and cultural homogenization. ;)Figarou wrote:HowlitzerMaybe thats how the Aztecs disappered. Who knows.
they say a climatic change killed off the dinosaurs. now....what caused the climatic change?
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EXACTLY what I'm trying to say...MattSullivan wrote:How about a naturally occourring warming period potentially aided by a small ( and I repeat SMALL ) amount of human caused factors,. That's my theory. oh, that and volcanoes, which spew more crap into the air during one eruption than humans could in 50 years of industrial growth
If anything, if we ARE contributing to warming... it's only a tiny, tiny contribution to a conveniently timed warming trend that we can't really do much about.
And Matt, you're absolutely right about volcanoes... in fact they comprise a large percentage of the natural sources of Carbon Dioxide.
And I can't believe I neglected to mention this factoid:
For the better part of the last century, scientists have been taking atmospheric Carbon Dioxide measurements at Mauna Loa, Hawaii. These are the very measurements you see in Statistics concerning climate change and the greenhouse effect, etc. Their reasoning for choosing such a location is because it is very far away from any heavily populated areas, and therefore would allow for less biased measurements of the Earth's *actual* atmospheric Carbon Dioxide levels.
However, Mauna Loa, Hawaii, is the world's largest active volcano. Volcanoes spew out Carbon Dioxide in ridiculous amounts, along with other lovely gases.
AND...this one I didn't mention, just to make you think:
The ocean, which covers over 70% of the planet, is the largest source of both Carbon Dioxide, and the largest source of Oxygen...this is both due to vegitation and larger animal life in the ocean, AND due to the enormous amounts of both Oxygen producing and Carbon Dioxide producing plankton. It both absorbs these gases from the atmosphere AND releases them. It can act, if anything, as a grand stabilizer in atmospheric gas levels. If Oxygen levels drop, Carbon Dioxide levels will rise....then the balance of plankton in the Ocean changes accordingly to gradually make up for this change.
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so it seems fair to say while some people are running around trying to solve the "global warming crisis" (quotes for their idea of it) it seems the earth already has a natural solution for the problem and needs absolutely no human intervention in that particular areaAND...this one I didn't mention, just to make you think:
The ocean, which covers over 70% of the planet, is the largest source of both Carbon Dioxide, and the largest source of Oxygen...this is both due to vegitation and larger animal life in the ocean, AND due to the enormous amounts of both Oxygen producing and Carbon Dioxide producing plankton. It both absorbs these gases from the atmosphere AND releases them. It can act, if anything, as a grand stabilizer in atmospheric gas levels. If Oxygen levels drop, Carbon Dioxide levels will rise....then the balance of plankton in the Ocean changes accordingly to gradually make up for this change.
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I didn't say that, don't twist my words into saying that I'm claiming to know and fully understand everything that's going on with the Earth, I don't. But neither does anybody else.Lukas wrote:so it seems fair to say while some people are running around trying to solve the "global warming crisis" (quotes for their idea of it) it seems the earth already has a natural solution for the problem and needs absolutely no human intervention in that particular areaAND...this one I didn't mention, just to make you think:
The ocean, which covers over 70% of the planet, is the largest source of both Carbon Dioxide, and the largest source of Oxygen...this is both due to vegitation and larger animal life in the ocean, AND due to the enormous amounts of both Oxygen producing and Carbon Dioxide producing plankton. It both absorbs these gases from the atmosphere AND releases them. It can act, if anything, as a grand stabilizer in atmospheric gas levels. If Oxygen levels drop, Carbon Dioxide levels will rise....then the balance of plankton in the Ocean changes accordingly to gradually make up for this change.
All I'm suggesting with that comment is that Mother Nature isn't quite as fragile as we seem to think it is at times. And Humans aren't quite as significant a factor as we seem to think we are at times.
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yes i remember when you posted that in the PETA thread way backKaebora wrote:Just a note to all those radicals out there...
When you burn a vehicle like a Hummer, it puts out more deadly toxins into the atmosphere than if the vehicle ran its entire lifespan and is properly dismantled at a junkyard.
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Yep. Stuff like this just goes to show how unintelligent these radicals are.Lukas wrote:yes i remember when you posted that in the PETA thread way backKaebora wrote:Just a note to all those radicals out there...
When you burn a vehicle like a Hummer, it puts out more deadly toxins into the atmosphere than if the vehicle ran its entire lifespan and is properly dismantled at a junkyard.
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