On my mind, needs some help..

Fenrir · Post by **Fenrir** » Fri Nov 25, 2005 11:37 am

I am not sure how to say this exactly, i am not sure if I should appologize for what has happened to you, but an appology is an excersize of repenting for a wrong that was commited by a person, and i couldn't have effected anything then, but I would never alow such an act to go on it's not something that civil people should do, but we are sometimes not human and treat others who don't conform like dogs.

I don't want to say you have my pity, because that would sound like you are beneath whoever said it, and you Sabre are not below anybody unless you yourself choose to be.

I am not sure to if i should say you have my deepest sympathy, for sympathy means you understand what a person has gone through and how painful and dramatic it has been, but i don't. If i was ever bullied I quickly outwitted them and made them walk away tail between their legs, what you have gone through is alienation, and that is something, again, no one should go through.

I could say it will all get better soon and it shall, because people have this habbit of maturing over time. Time usually is what makes people realize that there is more to the world then themselves, and that other people do in fact have emotions and these emotions are as fragil and as chaotic as theirs.

I might say to keep your chin held high so as not to see the evil that men do to others, for what they did to you is nothing compared to others, but that would sound uncompassionate, and i have deep compassion for this.

I shall just say that you are my dear friend as are the others in The Pack, and that there is warmth here when you need it.

Vuldari · Post by **Vuldari** » Fri Nov 25, 2005 8:37 pm

I would also like to appoligise to both Reilune and Hamster for my unfreindly attitude towards you.

I am just very intolerant of intolerance...if that makes any sense.

My anger tends to flare up when I see other people being mean, and I don't always think things through very well when I'm angry.

I'm sorry.

Anubis · Post by **Anubis** » Sat Nov 26, 2005 8:48 pm

Sabre I'm so sorry for all of this s*** that happened to believe me when i say i had some s*** i my life like this even though it wasn't racially motivated. I'm a freak the outcast and the black sheep. i go against the grain. and i was like that since i was little. kids made fun of me beat me up. for being me i live in a Mormon family and neiborehood every one pressers me to do s*** that i don't want to do. and the school and parents want me to what i call the cookie cutter kid. they want me to be good follow the rules and be like every one else. they don't like me because I'm the artist type. people hate when you don't act like what you should. because of this i Had to go through a lot of s***.

now I'm in high school things are better. the whole student body doesnt call me names anymore but it still bothers them.

so sabre when people say those things because you, quote "don't act black". tell them to f*** off its who you are be proud of that!! i should know that

((sabre you know my YM so you can always talk to me

))

Timber-WoIf · Post by **Timber-WoIf** » Mon Nov 28, 2005 11:54 am

seeing all this talk about bullies and karma and jadedness, i have thought on these topics for years, and want to put out a little bit of the bs i have come to...

-somebody always has it worse than you do. But another person has it worse than that somebody. and another sombody has it worse than that person. In the end, most everyone has gotten Fed in the A, and all are disserving of support.

-though i've had to deal with no phisical abuse, my parents did break up when i was 6, and i have been ignored, sans friends, and had food thrown in my hair by my peers sense 5th grade. Gradually, this made be very outwardly hostile. Though i don't actually attack anyone, i have a bad habit of treating everyone around me as my enemy, and most tend to be kept away by my hostile aura. thus, i am a loner.

-fairness has given way to technicallity. friggin idiots in the legal system. you can get expelled for defending yourself against a bully. and 7-11 can get sued if they don't take extra measures to ensure the customers know "caution: coffie may be hot"

-i am lost to low self esteem. Todays world is more like the natural wild than we think. Only the toughest in society, the ones best at manipulation the system, rise to great success. My GPA has dropped horrendusly, and my parents are no longer willing to help me through collage. So enlistment it is for me! (Navy or Air Farce; i'm actually looking forward to this, should do me some good)

anyway, my sympathy too all whom are having a tough time. Just remember that you're better than them. Don't stoop to thier low. Dispite all, I have retained a sense of honor and pride, knowing i have not victimized another. I try to do what i can to beat the victimizers, though i am convinced it is a futile struggle...

Set · Post by **Set** » Mon Nov 28, 2005 2:04 pm

Ah, turkey. While everyone's still semi-hopped up on triptophane, I have something else to say.

Ralith Lupus wrote:If anyone's in the wrong here, it's Reilune. Don't let one or two disgruntled people like him scare you off.

Ahem! Her.

Vuldari wrote:I am just very intolerant of intolerance...if that makes any sense.

Hypocrite.

Vuldari wrote:I can only imagine the horrible attitudes and experiences you must have been exposed to in your Own life (which you choose not to tell us about) that have lead you to having such a HORRIBLE outlook on the world.

Well if I shared, that would make me a hypocrite, wouldn't it? Let's all try and remember...this isn't a topic about me. It's about Sabre. So let's keep on topic and go "AWWW! You poor thing!" and feed her ego like she wants us to.

SabreWereWolfQueen_84 wrote:I don't like to make accusations but are you a bully at school?

Gotta be in school for that one. Before my mother pulled me out I was actually the one picked on. Not the bully. But, like I said, this isn't about me.

SabreWereWolfQueen_84 wrote:I mean if you actually got to talk to some of these kids that actually killed themselves because of their bullies in school, these tiny kids, would you have went off on them too for seeking help from ones she or he trusted or just tell them to stop seeking attention then the next day hear about them having commited suicide because of their problems?

There's a big difference between going to someone you actually KNOW and posting a message on the internet.

SabreWereWolfQueen_84 wrote:I am not looking for pity, but only people who I can talk to and hopefully find a means to better handle my problems

Again: if that's what you truly wanted then why the hell did you come here? None of us know you. Or your true situation. We are not qualified to give you any advice on your "problems".

Shadow Wulf · Post by **Shadow Wulf** » Tue Nov 29, 2005 7:48 am

Aww poor Sabre.

Dont worry about Reuilines comments, shes obvously doesnt have a guilty concouse and has no consideration towards others. You can express how you feel in here as much as you want. And also I have been both bully and victim so I can relate to alot of things.

Set · Post by **Set** » Tue Nov 29, 2005 3:58 pm

Shadow Wulf wrote:Aww poor Sabre.

Mmmhmm. See my point?

Shadow Wulf wrote:Dont worry about Reuilines comments, shes obvously doesnt have a guilty concouse

What should I feel guilty for? I've done nothing wrong. Oh...one more thing...

Shadow Wulf · Post by **Shadow Wulf** » Tue Nov 29, 2005 5:45 pm

And I forgot to mention that shes a harry potter fan so shes evil.

No but what your doing is wrong right now, shes not forcing for your sympathy, it seems like she has rough life and when somebody has been in those situations and sharing it to others then you shouldnt just say "Hey you dumb hypocryte! stop bitching about your life and move on". This is basicly what your saying.

Timber-WoIf · Post by **Timber-WoIf** » Tue Nov 29, 2005 7:30 pm

HAH! I remembered!

No person can act selflessly, all act for thier own self interest!
Even the nice ones!
People do what brings them happyness or enjoyment, or what simply helps them sustain thier lives. Nice people are blessed, for they enjoy seeing others helped and happy. Therefore, they give charity and support to fill the void that thier consience would otherwise create inside them. Not the happyness of others directly.

Sadly, selflessness is bad for success and survival, and due to the evil that is evolution and natural selection (which still applies in our civized world) people with this trait are rare. I would expand on this, but i have no time (sneaking on pc when not supposed to be on hehe...)

Miguel · Post by **Miguel** » Tue Nov 29, 2005 7:48 pm

Sabre,

Don't worry about it. The people that made fun of you and decided to bully you. Well, were probably bullied in their past. People like that in the world just end up having a hard time in life and just need help. You chose to do the right thing to my opinion. Just ignore them because I bet that they are having a hard time in life now. So, i'm sorry if you don't agree or somthing. Just trying to help

. You are a nice person and have been great to people in The Pack. Especially me for some things I have done. So don't worry about it, you are great.

Teh_DarkJokerWolf · Post by **Teh_DarkJokerWolf** » Tue Nov 29, 2005 8:41 pm

Well I appericiate all of your comments even your Reilune

Anyhow I took so time thought it wasn't that long and figured that you right Reilune about what you said although it could have been said in a more pleasant way, but still if you part of a group and have a problem wouldn't you yourself ask for adivce? Even you can't solve all your problems no matter how tough you are or act like you are..Asking for adivce anywhere is good if you feel it can help you so says my many doctors and what-not, but please next time try not to be so harsh with people issuses and problems if they need some then don't interfere if it bothers you so, please know that I only wish to have fun on here and nothing more

Short Tail · Post by **Short Tail** » Tue Nov 29, 2005 8:50 pm

I had a similar problem my freshman year in that I was an attention w**** and finnaly the pople in my dorm got fed up with it and they videotaped a group of people hitting me with lacross sticks and similar items. I don't tell many people about this because I feel that I brought it on myself and I have learned from it so it is a closed chaper of my life. Weird part is that when I watched the video last year, I almost laughed at how pathedic I was back then and how much I have changed. Also the people who were hitting me are now some of my closest freinds at this school so I hope that the people who are treating you like that grow out of it and learn to treat others with respect as everyone deserves.

Vuldari · Post by **Vuldari** » Wed Nov 30, 2005 2:39 am

Reilune wrote:
Shadow Wulf wrote:Aww poor Sabre.
Mmmhmm. See my point?

No...not really.

If hearing someone say that is enough to make one feel even just a little bit better, than I can see nothing wrong with it at all. Feeling better is a good thing.

Timber-WoIf wrote:No person can act selflessly, all act for thier own self interest!
Even the nice ones!
People do what brings them happyness or enjoyment, or what simply helps them sustain thier lives. Nice people are blessed, for they enjoy seeing others helped and happy. Therefore, they give charity and support to fill the void that thier consience would otherwise create inside them. Not the happyness of others directly.

LOL

...true enough.

I am kind because hearing people say "thank you" (and really mean it) brings me great personal joy. I do it because making other people feel good makes me feel REALLY good.

I rarely have any solutions to others problems, but I find that just lending an open ear and a shoulder to lean on can do wonders for others self-esteem. Its a way to show them that you really do care, and that their feelings matter...that they are REAL.

I don't mind this kind of thing at all. If crying to me, and hearing me say "I'm sorry for your troubles" (which I truely, truely am...Empathy is both my "blessing" and my "curse". I FEEL others pain.) is enough to make some of your pain go away, then let me just say...

*mysterious music fades in* "...Lean on Me. ...When you're not strooooong. ....I'll be your friend. ....I'll help you Caaaaryyyy oooonnn...For. ...it won't be Looong...till I'm gonna need...somebody to Leeeeeannn onnnn." *music fades out*

Timber-WoIf · Post by **Timber-WoIf** » Wed Nov 30, 2005 11:15 am

Sigh... I am not blessed with true empahty. I am, for the most part, a selfish a**. But I am conscious of this, and i at least try to give undersanding to others, and expect at least this from everyone else.

Set · Post by **Set** » Wed Nov 30, 2005 2:54 pm

Shadow Wulf wrote:And I forgot to mention that shes a harry potter fan so shes evil.

And so are you for being an Underworld fan. Blasphemy to the werewolf race!

Vuldari wrote:*mysterious music fades in* "...Lean on Me. ...When you're not strooooong. ....I'll be your friend. ....I'll help you Caaaaryyyy oooonnn...For. ...it won't be Looong...till I'm gonna need...somebody to Leeeeeannn onnnn." *music fades out*

How corny.

SabreWereWolfQueen_84 wrote:please know that I only wish to have fun on here and nothing more

Then this might amuse you:

Shadow Wulf · Post by **Shadow Wulf** » Wed Nov 30, 2005 7:09 pm

NOOOOO!!! NOT MORE YU GI OH!!! YUGIOH IS EVIL...EIVIIIILL!!!

Fenrir · Post by **Fenrir** » Wed Nov 30, 2005 7:54 pm

it's not as bad as pokemon, or watching informercials, or Fox News (Noone should be wrong that much!), but it is boring

Set · Post by **Set** » Thu Dec 01, 2005 3:00 pm

Fenrir wrote:it's not as bad as pokemon, or watching informercials, or Fox News (Noone should be wrong that much!), but it is boring

You just can't appreciate it for the innuendo-laden crackfest that it is. Behold your worst nightmare!

Shadow Wulf · Post by **Shadow Wulf** » Thu Dec 01, 2005 8:06 pm

NOOOOOO!!!!!!!!

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